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Hey, I'm just getting started with my first indoor grow (actually my first grow period), so I'm just looking for any feedback. I have thoroughly planned everything out... from germination to drying. I ordered some feminized 'LSD' seeds from barney's, and some big buddha cheese (feminized also). As a bonus, they thru in 2 auto-flowering strains (Red Dwarf and some ish called 'Deimos'). Also have a White Widow hybrid that a buddy of mine came up with, we call it 'Conquistadow' (His own hybrid that he named "Conquistador" crossed w/ White Widow). So, I guess I have two questions. 1.) Anyone had good results using ProMix BX? (also what type of nutes did you use with the promix?) And 2.) Do I just leave the lights on the auto-flowering ladies for 18 hrs on / 6 hrs off thru their whole life? Right now they're only a little over 2 weeks old and I got them veggin' under a T5. Haven't heard much about the auto-flowering varieties at all though, so any feedback would be appreciated.

 

Thanks.... Johnny Blaze

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So, I guess I have two questions. 1.) Anyone had good results using ProMix BX? (also what type of nutes did you use with the promix?)

 

And 2.) Do I just leave the lights on the auto-flowering ladies for 18 hrs on / 6 hrs off thru their whole life? Right now they're only a little over 2 weeks old and I got them veggin' under a T5. Haven't heard much about the auto-flowering varieties at all though, so any feedback would be appreciated.

 

Thanks.... Johnny Blaze

 

 

Hello " Johnny Blaze "

 

I can only help you w/ Question #1

 

I've been using Pro Mix BX Biofungicide Bale 3.8

for over two years approx.

 

I like it so well that i now offer it to

all my Friends & Family for $40 a bale ...

 

I use this w/ my Smart Pots ...

and feel that I've been very Successful for a Novice Grower ...

 

Ive been getting between 5-7 oz's per plant under 400 watt

Sunburst HPS and T-5 in my Bloom Room

 

Hope this helps ...

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Hello " Johnny Blaze "

 

I can only help you w/ Question #1

 

I've been using Pro Mix BX Biofungicide Bale 3.8

for over two years approx.

 

I like it so well that i now offer it to

all my Friends & Family for $40 a bale ...

 

I use this w/ my Smart Pots ...

and feel that I've been very Successful for a Novice Grower ...

 

Ive been getting between 5-7 oz's per plant under 400 watt

Sunburst HPS and T-5 in my Bloom Room

 

Hope this helps ...

 

Do you add anything to the mix. ie;, lime, bone or bloodmeal etc.?

 

I just got a bale to try... I expect a learning curve ...again...lol Been useing ffof. The bugs are driving me crazy..

 

Probably have to adhere more strictly to the feeding schedule ?

 

thanks in advance for the timely information, I just decided to try it today since I can get it alot closer to home.

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Do you add anything to the mix. ie;, lime, bone or bloodmeal etc.?

 

I just got a bale to try... I expect a learning curve ...again...lol Been useing ffof. The bugs are driving me crazy..

 

Probably have to adhere more strictly to the feeding schedule ?

 

thanks in advance for the timely information, I just decided to try it today since I can get it alot closer to home.

 

 

Afternoon " lkline300 "

 

Nope ... i just fill my 5 gallon smart pots up

to the top and put my plants in the middle ....

 

i use General Hydroponics Nutrients ....

 

I use the " Keep It Simple Drain to Waste Program "

 

I Feed a Day ,

 

Skip a Day ,

 

Flush ....

 

Skip a Day ,

 

Flush ....

 

Skip a Day ...

 

Feed ... etc.

 

The Hydroshop suggested feeding twice a week , But

I have learn that was too much and a waste of my money ....

 

If you want to talk in more Details , Just PM Me and

I 'll give you my home phone number and I'd be willing to

help you all i can .... :bighug:

 

My way is So Simple : the Caveman is Growing Pounds

in his basement using 30 gallon pots .... :thumbsu:

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Hey, I'm just getting started with my first indoor grow (actually my first grow period), so I'm just looking for any feedback. I have thoroughly planned everything out... from germination to drying. I ordered some feminized 'LSD' seeds from barney's, and some big buddha cheese (feminized also). As a bonus, they thru in 2 auto-flowering strains (Red Dwarf and some ish called 'Deimos'). Also have a White Widow hybrid that a buddy of mine came up with, we call it 'Conquistadow' (His own hybrid that he named "Conquistador" crossed w/ White Widow). So, I guess I have two questions. 1.) Anyone had good results using ProMix BX? (also what type of nutes did you use with the promix?) And 2.) Do I just leave the lights on the auto-flowering ladies for 18 hrs on / 6 hrs off thru their whole life? Right now they're only a little over 2 weeks old and I got them veggin' under a T5. Haven't heard much about the auto-flowering varieties at all though, so any feedback would be appreciated.

 

Thanks.... Johnny Blaze

 

 

 

I'm 30 days into my very first flower using ProMix BX. The only nutes I've used are the SensiGrow A and B (different formulas for veg and flower).

 

 

So far, so good. My veg plants grow like crazy, and flowering has gone very well. I feed them every time I water, as instructed by the grow store.

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Good day Doc,

 

What size smart pots you use?

 

How far (how many) pots does a bale go?

 

How many T5's in bloom room, how placed?

 

Gh nutes.....the 3 part...or Lucas?

 

 

I know, lots of questions.........your good results with x amount of light caught my attention. I may try Pro mix!

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Good day Doc,

 

What size smart pots you use?

 

How far (how many) pots does a bale go?

 

How many T5's in bloom room, how placed?

 

Gh nutes.....the 3 part...or Lucas?

 

 

I know, lots of questions.........your good results with x amount of light caught my attention. I may try Pro mix!

 

Evening " TajMahal "

 

Sorry it took so long to reply ...

Just been one of those kind of Days ....

 

I start off using General Hydroponics RapidRooter ,

which are starter plugs made from natural composted tree bark ....

 

Once i see Good roots in 7-14 days , I transplant them

in a 6 inch plastic pots filled w/ ProMix BX Biofunicide ...

 

Then i veg them till their 12-16 inches tall and

their begging to be transplanted ...

 

Then i put them in a 5 - gallon Smart Pot filled w/ ProMix ....

As soon as i do that , they Useally Explode ....

 

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As far as How many i get out of a bale ?

I use to know but my Mememory is'nt as Good as it use to be ...

 

You can re-use the Smart Pots as long as you rinse them

out real Good w/ Fresh Water Only ....

 

-----------------------------------------------

 

Here is a couple shoots of my Bloom Room Lighting ...

 

RightSideofGroowRoom.jpg

 

LeftSideofGrowRoom.jpg

 

I had to take two photos to get it all ....

 

You can see from the first photo that i have two 400's

then a T-5 w/ 3000 K (Red Spectrum)

 

Then i have two more 400 watters ...

 

Then another T-5 ....

 

Then two more 400's ...

 

Im using those HydrFarm Sunburst 400W HPS/MH Convertible

 

Trust Me ... w/ all these lights , 2 - Furnace Fans ,

2 - Infinite Breeze Multi-Directional Wallmount Fans ,

Air Condition , My Electric bill is almost $500 every month ...

 

 

 

Hope this helps Answers most of your Questions :bighug:

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Pro Mix rocks, Tarzans photos show it , but more than anything they show his love for them :goodjob:

Just bought 3 bails today for $100,

might have to go get another 3 .

 

 

Promix works great as a base for Subcools Organic soils or any organic soil grow , its base is very strong for building on . Either way this is the best in my humble opinion for your dollar , unless you get bails of peat and perlite and lime lime it down and add mych then you have made your own for 1/4 the cost .

 

Tricky part is gettin caclcitic and dolomitic lime in fine form .Hence just paying the extra money this time as my stash of lime is low again .

 

 

If you bought 3 bails of :

 

ProMix BX w/ Biofunicide

 

Thats One Heck of a Deal in Northern Michigan ...

 

Most Hydro Stores sell it for $49 a bail ....

and i thought i was doing great at $40 a bail ... WoW

 

Thanks " ODAWADANNY " for the Kind Word ...

You and the Wife need to come over for the Day ...

 

WE'LL MAKE YOU DINNER and I have Desert .... :bighug:

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drtarzanmd

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Now i understand why ....

 

I believe i could do $30 a bale on that ....

I feel Better Now ....

 

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YOURS .....

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http://www.greenislanddistributors.com/product/Pro-Mix-BX-Mycorise-Pro.htm

 

Pro Mix BX Mycorise Pro

 

PRO MIX BX MYCORISE® PRO is a "general purpose" peat based

growing medium with vermiculite and perlite, used for the

cultivation of a wide variety of plant species.

MYCORISE® PRO ensures stronger, healthier plants due

to more developed root systems

 

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Active Ingredient Components: Canadian Sphagnum Peat Moss (75 85% vol.)

Endomycorrhize (Mycorise Pro) Perlite horticultural grade Vermiculite Dolo

 

 

 

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MINE ....

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http://www.greenislanddistributors.com/product/Pro-Mix-BX-w-Bio.htm

 

PRO MIX BX with BIOFUNGICIDE is a "General Purpose"

peat based professional growing medium, designed for the

cultivation of horticultural plants. This formulation is lightweight,

uniform and provides necessary conditions to establish plant growth.

This high quality product is suitable for a wide variety of plants.

Enriched with Subtilex, a high performance biofungicide that

prevents root diseases caused by pathogens,

such as Pythium, Fusarium and Rhizoctonia.

 

 

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Benefits: Reduced management costs for disease control

• Compatible with a wide range of chemical pesticides

• Enhanced plant vigor and reduced incidence of disease

• Improved germination and survivability of transplants

• Better performance and shelf life over funga

 

Active Ingredient Components: Canadian Sphagnum Peat Moss (75 80% vol.) • Bacilius subtilis MB1600 (biofungicide) • Perlite (horticultural grade) • Vermiculite • Dolomitic Calcitic Limestone • Macronutrients • Micronutrients • Wetting Agent

 

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Evening " TajMahal "

 

Sorry it took so long to reply ...

Just been one of those kind of Days ....

 

I start off using General Hydroponics RapidRooter ,

which are starter plugs made from natural composted tree bark ....

 

Once i see Good roots in 7-14 days , I transplant them

in a 6 inch plastic pots filled w/ ProMix BX Biofunicide ...

 

Then i veg them till their 12-16 inches tall and

their begging to be transplanted ...

 

Then i put them in a 5 - gallon Smart Pot filled w/ ProMix ....

As soon as i do that , they Useally Explode ....

 

-----------------------------------------------

 

As far as How many i get out of a bale ?

I use to know but my Mememory is'nt as Good as it use to be ...

 

You can re-use the Smart Pots as long as you rinse them

out real Good w/ Fresh Water Only ....

 

-----------------------------------------------

 

Here is a couple shoots of my Bloom Room Lighting ...

 

RightSideofGroowRoom.jpg

 

LeftSideofGrowRoom.jpg

 

I had to take two photos to get it all ....

 

You can see from the first photo that i have two 400's

then a T-5 w/ 3000 K (Red Spectrum)

 

Then i have two more 400 watters ...

 

Then another T-5 ....

 

Then two more 400's ...

 

Im using those HydrFarm Sunburst 400W HPS/MH Convertible

 

Trust Me ... w/ all these lights , 2 - Furnace Fans ,

2 - Infinite Breeze Multi-Directional Wallmount Fans ,

Air Condition , My Electric bill is almost $500 every month ...

 

 

 

Hope this helps Answers most of your Questions :bighug:

 

That is an absolutely beautiful grow room DrT. You have inspired me to redo my own flower room this summer and add some T5's. I am on my last grow for the season (taking the summer off - too hot to grow inside) and have used my veg room to flower the last of my veggies. I have 400's in the veg room and the plants (3 weeks into flower) look as good as the ones in my flower room under 600 watters! I can't wait to see if the buds get as big under the 400's.After viewing your results I am very optimistic.

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Evening " TajMahal "

 

Sorry it took so long to reply ...

Just been one of those kind of Days ....

 

I start off using General Hydroponics RapidRooter ,

which are starter plugs made from natural composted tree bark ....

 

Once i see Good roots in 7-14 days , I transplant them

in a 6 inch plastic pots filled w/ ProMix BX Biofunicide ...

 

Then i veg them till their 12-16 inches tall and

their begging to be transplanted ...

 

Then i put them in a 5 - gallon Smart Pot filled w/ ProMix ....

As soon as i do that , they Useally Explode ....

 

-----------------------------------------------

 

As far as How many i get out of a bale ?

I use to know but my Mememory is'nt as Good as it use to be ...

 

You can re-use the Smart Pots as long as you rinse them

out real Good w/ Fresh Water Only ....

 

-----------------------------------------------

 

Here is a couple shoots of my Bloom Room Lighting ...

 

RightSideofGroowRoom.jpg

 

LeftSideofGrowRoom.jpg

 

I had to take two photos to get it all ....

 

You can see from the first photo that i have two 400's

then a T-5 w/ 3000 K (Red Spectrum)

 

Then i have two more 400 watters ...

 

Then another T-5 ....

 

Then two more 400's ...

 

Im using those HydrFarm Sunburst 400W HPS/MH Convertible

 

Trust Me ... w/ all these lights , 2 - Furnace Fans ,

2 - Infinite Breeze Multi-Directional Wallmount Fans ,

Air Condition , My Electric bill is almost $500 every month ...

 

 

 

Hope this helps Answers most of your Questions :bighug:

Wow that is some electric bill. Must be the air conditioner. I have been running 4 1000's 2 400's and a 250 for 1 1/2 years and my gas and electric for like this month is $665. And there are 4 110 liters air pumps running 24/7

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Evening " TajMahal "

 

Sorry it took so long to reply ...

Just been one of those kind of Days ....

 

I start off using General Hydroponics RapidRooter ,

which are starter plugs made from natural composted tree bark ....

 

Once i see Good roots in 7-14 days , I transplant them

in a 6 inch plastic pots filled w/ ProMix BX Biofunicide ...

 

Then i veg them till their 12-16 inches tall and

their begging to be transplanted ...

 

Then i put them in a 5 - gallon Smart Pot filled w/ ProMix ....

As soon as i do that , they Useally Explode ....

 

-----------------------------------------------

 

As far as How many i get out of a bale ?

I use to know but my Mememory is'nt as Good as it use to be ...

 

You can re-use the Smart Pots as long as you rinse them

out real Good w/ Fresh Water Only ....

 

-----------------------------------------------

 

Here is a couple shoots of my Bloom Room Lighting ...

 

RightSideofGroowRoom.jpg

 

LeftSideofGrowRoom.jpg

 

I had to take two photos to get it all ....

 

You can see from the first photo that i have two 400's

then a T-5 w/ 3000 K (Red Spectrum)

 

Then i have two more 400 watters ...

 

Then another T-5 ....

 

Then two more 400's ...

 

Im using those HydrFarm Sunburst 400W HPS/MH Convertible

 

Trust Me ... w/ all these lights , 2 - Furnace Fans ,

2 - Infinite Breeze Multi-Directional Wallmount Fans ,

Air Condition , My Electric bill is almost $500 every month ...

 

 

 

Hope this helps Answers most of your Questions :bighug:

 

Do you have all those lights slung on one rack for raising and lowering, or do they each raise and lower independently? Thanks DrT.

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That is an absolutely beautiful grow room DrT. You have inspired me to redo my own flower room this summer and add some T5's. I am on my last grow for the season (taking the summer off - too hot to grow inside) and have used my veg room to flower the last of my veggies. I have 400's in the veg room and the plants (3 weeks into flower) look as good as the ones in my flower room under 600 watters! I can't wait to see if the buds get as big under the 400's.After viewing your results I am very optimistic.

 

Thanks 'Chauncy Gardner' for the kind words ...

 

All i did was see how others set up their rooms and pretty

much did mine similiar to theirs , w/ some fine tuning ....

 

I used 3- Commercial T5 4FT 4 Tube Fixture (FLT44) in

my 5 x 6 veg room w/ 6500 K ( blue spectrum )

 

http://www.hydrofarm.com/pb_detail.php?itemid=8982

 

in the bloom room their the 3000 K ( red spectrum )....

 

 

 

Wow that is some electric bill. Must be the air conditioner. I have been running 4 1000's 2 400's and a 250 for 1 1/2 years and my gas and electric for like this month is $665. And there are 4 110 liters air pumps running 24/7

 

Yes ... 'affordablemimeds'

 

We're using approx. 4000 Kilowatts each month ....

 

I was just estimating approx.

It gets alot higher in the summer once i

turn on the Air Conditioning ....

 

Here's our Electric Bill

 

PRIOR Amount = $436.00

 

KWH POWER SUPPLY = $186.45

PSCR ADJ = $72.53

KWH DISTRIBUTION = $81.18

AVAILABILITY CHARGE = $15.00

EO-SURCHARGE = $5.41

TAX = $14.24

LM AMT = ($4.50)

COMMUNITIES FIRST = $0.69

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TOTAL CURRENT BILL $371.00

 

 

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That seems like a lot for electric Tarzan. :unsure:

 

I run a T5, 600, and 2 1000's, assorted fans, etc., etc....$230.00 a month.

 

No a/c needed. :thumbsu:

 

 

Once you seen my entire house you would understand ....

 

I also have a fence that lights up at night ...

300 feet long w/ 12 - 40 watt lights ...

 

Plus a lighted Bussiness Sign out in my front yard ....

 

Plus my Ducks have 4 - 100 watt light bulbs in their Duck Motel ...

 

Plus our Dog has a 400 watt light in her Dog House ,

That i just turned off because she Died this winter ....

 

Plus i have a Shop that runs a few lights ....

 

Plus the Security Cameras , Alarms .....

 

Two Computers on all Day long ... A Tv running all day long ....

 

Plus Christmas Lights ....

 

You just gotta come see me 'rockinlespaul'

then you would understand .... :thumbsu:

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Well now you didn't say all that before, lol.

 

Sounds like 500 is a pretty decent deal for all that! :thumbsu:

 

Summers comin'....would love to come up sometime with the better half. :)

 

 

Lookin' Foward to that Day ....

 

Sure would Love to hear you jam to one

of those guitars 'rockinlespaul'

 

Please let me know ahead of time ...

 

I'd surely like to cook dinner

for You and Your Wife ...

 

Even if its Burgers on the grill ....

 

Surely looking foward to summer ....

 

Man Oh Man .... Surely Not setting a very Good Example ....

We've High-jacked " Johnny Blaze " post pretty bad ....

 

Sorry about that Johnny ....

 

Meds might be a little Strong ....

 

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But i would Highly recommend " Pro Mix BX Biofungicide "

w/ " Smart Pots " ....

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I'm using Pro-Mix BX with mycorise pro. I started off with Pro-Mix HP but I was watering/feeding far too often. That stuff is too airy in my opinion. Here's a pdf I found a while back with the info on Pro-Mix BX.

 

I'm really happy with the BX so far... especially as far as pH goes. It starts off around 5.5 and about a month into flower its around 6 after being feed with 6-7 pH'd nutes and water since the start.

 

I've been wondering the last few weeks if reusing it is possible without too much trouble. Anybody know?

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