Koch-Funded Tea Party Heavyweight Tim Phillips Spoke At Norweigan Killer's Political Party Event

[+EdwardGlen]

Did the Tea Party insanity spark Norway's terror attacks...

 

http://www.alternet.org/newsandviews/article/638969/koch-funded_tea_party_heavyweight_tim_phillips_spoke_at_norweigan_killer%27s_political_party_event/

 

 

Anders Behring Breivik, detained in the deadly Oslo bombing and shooting that has left 92 dead, has links to Norway's anti-government political group the Progress Party, according to the LA Times:

 

On social media forums, he claimed to be a disgruntled former member of Norway's anti-tax, small-government Progress Party, according to the Norwegian Nettavisen news service. His postings reflected strong anti-Islamic views and a deep skepticism about the mixing of different international cultures.

 

As if turns out, Tim Phillips, President of the Tea Party group Americans for Prosperity, spoke at a Progress Party event in 2010. According to an article published in the Norweigen paper Aftenposten on April 24th, 2010:

 

Phillips was invited by the Progress Party leadership to talk about grassroots organizing. But he talked mostly about how his organization is fighting for a weaker central government and lower taxes, to health reform and climate change.

 

Moreover, he spoke regularly Democrats in the U.S. as the "left side".

[solabeirtan]

Interesting theory EG. Has some merrit. Maybe this was aimed at Statoil [ State of Norway Oil ] ? A heinous act to be sure, in a country with the per capita highest GDP in the world, highest Quality of Life index for years running. Especially troubling to the only 4.9 million residents of the former birthplace and home of the [ real ] Vikings. Here's a vid of Tim Phillips in a Rachel Maddow interview.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVLOn855Nqc&NR=1

[thanks2]

Sorry, miss read.

[thanks2]

Population manipulation.

 

"Breivik clearly characterizes himself .....as a Bill Kristol style neo-con, an enthusiastic supporter of Israel, attacking racists and accusing others of being “anti-gay”.

 

It seems as if there are two Breivik’s, the original, a socially liberal, pro-Israel neo-con, and the second post-massacre profile of a Christian conservative, white supremacist. The second profile has clearly been embellished to push the notion that Breivik’s rampage was driven by his Christian conservative beliefs, which is convenient given the fact that governments recently introduced the meme that white, Christian conservatives were the leading terror threat."

 

"To achieve world government, it is necessary to remove from the minds of men their individualism, loyalty to family traditions, national patriotism, and religious dogmas." - Brock Adams, Director UN Health Organization

 

http://www.prisonplanet.com/anders-behring-breivik-manufacturing-a-patsy.html

[+EdwardGlen]

Interesting theory EG. Has some merrit. Maybe this was aimed at Statoil [ State of Norway Oil ] ? A heinous act to be sure, in a country with the per capita highest GDP in the world, highest Quality of Life index for years running. Especially troubling to the only 4.9 million residents of the former birthplace and home of the [ real ] Vikings. Here's a vid of Tim Phillips in a Rachel Maddow interview.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVLOn855Nqc&NR=1

 

tea party Backed Sharron Angle Addresses 'Second Amendment Remedies': Revolution Is 'Possible'

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/09/08/sharron-angle-addresses-s_n_709518.html

 

Using 'second amendment solutions' to election outcomes the tea party doesn't like. We have elected officials in DC calling for violent reactions to elections that don't go 'their way'.

 

========================================================================================================================

The Tea Party Reality

 

Noam Chomsky's Elephant in the Room

 

http://readersupportednews.org/pm-section/21-21/3921-noam-chomskys-elephant-in-the-room

 

Friday, 12 November 2010 01:55

 

The Tea Party. Don’t ridicule it. Understand its causes.

 

That’s the theme of Noam Chomsky’s article, Outrage, Misguided in the news-magazine IN THESE TIMES (and Republished by RSN).

 

Times are bad, he says.

 

The rich have gotten richer while middle class incomes have stagnated or declined. Unemployment is stuck at around ten percent, and the government seems unable to do anything about it. Banks, too big to fail, that received billions of taxpayer dollars are making more money than ever, and paying out huge bonuses.

Tea Baggers are only expressing their anger, he says.

 

Chomsky goes on to quote a Rasmussen poll that shows the majority of Americans view the Tea-Party movement favorably.

 

The problem is that the Tea-Party movement wasn’t really created as a result of the recession of 2008 or by unemployment or even by the nefarious bailout. The Tea Party’s happy that the rich are getting richer. It most assuredly is not a spontaneous uprising of dissatisfied folks who are unfairly being ridiculed.

 

When Chomsky says we should not ridicule the Tea Party, but pay attention to its grievances, he is ignoring the elephant in the room.

The Tea Party is first and foremost a mob.

It is a fake grassroots movement funded by secretive, greedy billionaires.

 

It is funded by the fourth and fifth richest men in America, Charles and David Koch, and Rupert Murdoch (who is 38th richest). They have their shills of course (Sarah Palin, Newt Gingrich, and Glenn Beck are on Murdoch’s payroll). These mouthpieces pretend to be ordinary folk, but they are the ringleaders of the Tea-Party mob. They hand out free bus tickets and cute hats. They wind up Tea Bag mobs, and then send them out to stage loud, angry, fake protests.

 

The Koch brothers created the Tea Party movement to “Take Back America.” But even their shills don’t explain what they mean. The goal of the Tea-Party movement is plutocracy. Plutocracy: government of, by, and for the wealthy. It is not about “taking back America,” it’s about Taking America For All It’s Got.

 

To win over the mob, they like to play the race card.

Sometimes the appeal to racism is subtle.

 

Take Back America? Where did it go? How did it get lost? From whom are they taking it back? The answer to that question is easy. They want to take the presidency from Obama, who happens to be black, and give it to “a real American.”

There’s also the not-so-subtle racism.

 

Tea-Party protesters called Black Georgia Democratic Congressman John Lewis, “Ni@@er" Another Black Democratic Congressman from Missouri, Rep. Emanuel Cleaver, was spat upon. Newt Gingrich, accused Obama of “Kenyon behavior.” Which is to not say that he called Obama a derogatory name but he might as well have.

 

Then there Glenn Beck: ''This president I think has exposed himself over and over again as a guy who has a deep-seated hatred for white people or the white culture.''

 

The Tea Party mob is like the KKK mob, but with different hats.

They also like to play tough.

Tea-Party favorite, Sharon Angle said in a radio interview in 2010: "You know if this Congress keeps going the way it is, people are really looking toward those Second-Amendment remedies, and saying my goodness what can we do to turn this country around? I'll tell you the first thing we need to do is take Harry Reid out.”

 

Tea-Party leader Gingrich refers to the Tea-Party movement as “the militant wing of the Republican Party.”

 

Militant? You betcha!

 

Sarah Palin asks New Yorkers to "refute the Ground Zero mosque plan" if Muslems go ahead with their plan to build a “Ground-Zero Mosque because it “stabs in the heart.” Tea Bag “folks” are not shocked when one of their own stomps on the head of a woman at a Rand Paul rally.

 

Chomsky talks about “Tea-Party shenanigans.” Shenanigans is an odd choice to describe a violent, racist, deluded mob. Would he have called brown-shirt Nazi racism and violence shenanigans?

 

The Tea Party did not grow out of the daunting problems that America faces. The Tea Party is the product of a media controlled by a tiny cadre of Plutocrats. It is a destructive, dangerous, deluded mob owned and manipulated by billionaires who are up to no good.

 

It is fundamentally anti-democratic.

 

With due respect, Mr. Chomsky, there’s an elephant in the room and you don’t see it.The Tea Party does not need our sympathy.

 

It needs to be shown for what it is.

 

by James and Jean Anton

www.endendlesswars.org

[AmishRnot4ganja]

tea party Backed Sharron Angle Addresses 'Second Amendment Remedies': Revolution Is 'Possible'

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/09/08/sharron-angle-addresses-s_n_709518.html

 

Using 'second amendment solutions' to election outcomes the tea party doesn't like. We have elected officials in DC calling for violent reactions to elections that don't go 'their way'.

 

========================================================================================================================

The Tea Party Reality

 

Noam Chomsky's Elephant in the Room

 

http://readersupportednews.org/pm-section/21-21/3921-noam-chomskys-elephant-in-the-room

 

Friday, 12 November 2010 01:55

 

The Tea Party. Don’t ridicule it. Understand its causes.

 

That’s the theme of Noam Chomsky’s article, Outrage, Misguided in the news-magazine IN THESE TIMES (and Republished by RSN).

 

Times are bad, he says.

 

The rich have gotten richer while middle class incomes have stagnated or declined. Unemployment is stuck at around ten percent, and the government seems unable to do anything about it. Banks, too big to fail, that received billions of taxpayer dollars are making more money than ever, and paying out huge bonuses.

Tea Baggers are only expressing their anger, he says.

 

Chomsky goes on to quote a Rasmussen poll that shows the majority of Americans view the Tea-Party movement favorably.

 

The problem is that the Tea-Party movement wasn’t really created as a result of the recession of 2008 or by unemployment or even by the nefarious bailout. The Tea Party’s happy that the rich are getting richer. It most assuredly is not a spontaneous uprising of dissatisfied folks who are unfairly being ridiculed.

 

When Chomsky says we should not ridicule the Tea Party, but pay attention to its grievances, he is ignoring the elephant in the room.

The Tea Party is first and foremost a mob.

It is a fake grassroots movement funded by secretive, greedy billionaires.

 

It is funded by the fourth and fifth richest men in America, Charles and David Koch, and Rupert Murdoch (who is 38th richest). They have their shills of course (Sarah Palin, Newt Gingrich, and Glenn Beck are on Murdoch’s payroll). These mouthpieces pretend to be ordinary folk, but they are the ringleaders of the Tea-Party mob. They hand out free bus tickets and cute hats. They wind up Tea Bag mobs, and then send them out to stage loud, angry, fake protests.

 

The Koch brothers created the Tea Party movement to “Take Back America.” But even their shills don’t explain what they mean. The goal of the Tea-Party movement is plutocracy. Plutocracy: government of, by, and for the wealthy. It is not about “taking back America,” it’s about Taking America For All It’s Got.

 

To win over the mob, they like to play the race card.

Sometimes the appeal to racism is subtle.

 

Take Back America? Where did it go? How did it get lost? From whom are they taking it back? The answer to that question is easy. They want to take the presidency from Obama, who happens to be black, and give it to “a real American.”

There’s also the not-so-subtle racism.

 

Tea-Party protesters called Black Georgia Democratic Congressman John Lewis, “Ni@@er" Another Black Democratic Congressman from Missouri, Rep. Emanuel Cleaver, was spat upon. Newt Gingrich, accused Obama of “Kenyon behavior.” Which is to not say that he called Obama a derogatory name but he might as well have.

 

Then there Glenn Beck: ''This president I think has exposed himself over and over again as a guy who has a deep-seated hatred for white people or the white culture.''

 

The Tea Party mob is like the KKK mob, but with different hats.

They also like to play tough.

Tea-Party favorite, Sharon Angle said in a radio interview in 2010: "You know if this Congress keeps going the way it is, people are really looking toward those Second-Amendment remedies, and saying my goodness what can we do to turn this country around? I'll tell you the first thing we need to do is take Harry Reid out.”

 

Tea-Party leader Gingrich refers to the Tea-Party movement as “the militant wing of the Republican Party.”

 

Militant? You betcha!

 

Sarah Palin asks New Yorkers to "refute the Ground Zero mosque plan" if Muslems go ahead with their plan to build a “Ground-Zero Mosque because it “stabs in the heart.” Tea Bag “folks” are not shocked when one of their own stomps on the head of a woman at a Rand Paul rally.

 

Chomsky talks about “Tea-Party shenanigans.” Shenanigans is an odd choice to describe a violent, racist, deluded mob. Would he have called brown-shirt Nazi racism and violence shenanigans?

 

The Tea Party did not grow out of the daunting problems that America faces. The Tea Party is the product of a media controlled by a tiny cadre of Plutocrats. It is a destructive, dangerous, deluded mob owned and manipulated by billionaires who are up to no good.

 

It is fundamentally anti-democratic.

 

With due respect, Mr. Chomsky, there’s an elephant in the room and you don’t see it.The Tea Party does not need our sympathy.

 

It needs to be shown for what it is.

 

by James and Jean Anton

www.endendlesswars.org

 

 

Everything I have ever suspected about the Tea Party laid out with reason and backed up by facts. Refreshing.

[MightyMightyMezz]

Let's start with the basics. Norway is supporting Palestinian statehood and Breivik is a rabid Zionist.

 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/feedarticle/9761756

Associated Press= OSLO, Norway (AP) — The man blamed for killing at least 93 people during terrorist attacks on Norway's government headquarters and an island retreat for young people wanted to trigger an anti-Muslim revolution in Norwegian society, his lawyer said Sunday...

 

...The manifesto that 32-year-old suspect Anders Behring Breivik published online ranted against Muslim immigration to Europe and vowed revenge on those "indigenous Europeans" whom he deemed had betrayed their heritage. The document said they would be punished for their "treasonous acts."

 

Police said they were analyzing the approximately 1,500-page document. They said it was published Friday shortly before the back-to-back bomb and gun attacks.

 

[+EdwardGlen]

The Republican tea party with its hyper partisan political and radical christian views are as much, or more, a threat to Americas national security as any foreign based terror group.

 

The Billionaires Bankrolling the Tea Party

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/29/opinion/29rich.html

 

 

ANOTHER weekend, another grass-roots demonstration starring Real Americans who are mad as hell and want to take back their country from you-know-who. Last Sunday the site was Lower Manhattan, where they jeered the “ground zero mosque.” This weekend, the scene shifted to Washington, where the avatars of oppressed white Tea Party America, Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin, were slated to “reclaim the civil rights movement” (Beck’s words) on the same spot where the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. had his dream exactly 47 years earlier.

 

Vive la révolution!

 

There’s just one element missing from these snapshots of America’s ostensibly spontaneous and leaderless populist uprising: the sugar daddies who are bankrolling it, and have been doing so since well before the “death panel” warm-up acts of last summer. Three heavy hitters rule. You’ve heard of one of them, Rupert Murdoch. The other two, the brothers David and Charles Koch, are even richer, with a combined wealth exceeded only by that of Bill Gates and Warren Buffett among Americans. But even those carrying the Kochs’ banner may not know who these brothers are.

 

Their self-interested and at times radical agendas, like Murdoch’s, go well beyond, and sometimes counter to, the interests of those who serve as spear carriers in the political pageants hawked on Fox News. The country will be in for quite a ride should these potentates gain power, and given the recession-battered electorate’s unchecked anger and the Obama White House’s unfocused political strategy, they might.

 

All three tycoons are the latest incarnation of what the historian Kim Phillips-Fein labeled “Invisible Hands” in her prescient 2009 book of that title: those corporate players who have financed the far right ever since the du Pont brothers spawned the American Liberty League in 1934 to bring down F.D.R. You can draw a straight line from the Liberty League’s crusade against the New Deal “socialism” of Social Security, the Securities and Exchange Commission and child labor laws to the John Birch Society-Barry Goldwater assault on J.F.K. and Medicare to the Koch-Murdoch-backed juggernaut against our “socialist” president.

 

Only the fat cats change — not their methods and not their pet bugaboos (taxes, corporate regulation, organized labor, and government “handouts” to the poor, unemployed, ill and elderly). Even the sources of their fortunes remain fairly constant. Koch Industries began with oil in the 1930s and now also spews an array of industrial products, from Dixie cups to Lycra, not unlike DuPont’s portfolio of paint and plastics. Sometimes the biological DNA persists as well. The Koch brothers’ father, Fred, was among the select group chosen to serve on the Birch Society’s top governing body. In a recorded 1963 speech that survives in a University of Michigan archive, he can be heard warning of “a takeover” of America in which Communists would “infiltrate the highest offices of government in the U.S. until the president is a Communist, unknown to the rest of us.” That rant could be delivered as is at any Tea Party rally today.

 

Last week the Kochs were shoved unwillingly into the spotlight by the most comprehensive journalistic portrait of them yet, written by Jane Mayer of The New Yorker. Her article caused a stir among those in Manhattan’s liberal elite who didn’t know that David Koch, widely celebrated for his cultural philanthropy, is not merely another rich conservative Republican but the founder of the Americans for Prosperity Foundation, which, as Mayer writes with some understatement, “has worked closely with the Tea Party since the movement’s inception.” To New Yorkers who associate the David H. Koch Theater at Lincoln Center with the New York City Ballet, it’s startling to learn that the Texas branch of that foundation’s political arm, known simply as Americans for Prosperity, gave its Blogger of the Year Award to an activist who had called President Obama “cokehead in chief.”

 

The other major sponsor of the Tea Party movement is Dick Armey’s FreedomWorks, which, like Americans for Prosperity, is promoting events in Washington this weekend. Under its original name, Citizens for a Sound Economy, FreedomWorks received $12 million of its own from Koch family foundations. Using tax records, Mayer found that Koch-controlled foundations gave out $196 million from 1998 to 2008, much of it to conservative causes and institutions. That figure doesn’t include $50 million in Koch Industries lobbying and $4.8 million in campaign contributions by its political action committee, putting it first among energy company peers like Exxon Mobil and Chevron. Since tax law permits anonymous personal donations to nonprofit political groups, these figures may understate the case. The Kochs surely match the in-kind donations the Tea Party receives in free promotion 24/7 from Murdoch’s Fox News, where both Beck and Palin are on the payroll.

 

The New Yorker article stirred up the right, too. Some of Mayer’s blogging detractors unwittingly upheld the premise of her article (titled “Covert Operations”) by conceding that they have been Koch grantees. None of them found any factual errors in her 10,000 words. Many of them tried to change the subject to George Soros, the billionaire backer of liberal causes. But Soros is a publicity hound who is transparent about where he shovels his money. And like many liberals — selflessly or foolishly, depending on your point of view — he supports causes that are unrelated to his business interests and that, if anything, raise his taxes.

 

This is hardly true of the Kochs. When David Koch ran to the right of Reagan as vice president on the 1980 Libertarian ticket (it polled 1 percent), his campaign called for the abolition not just of Social Security, federal regulatory agencies and welfare but also of the F.B.I., the C.I.A., and public schools — in other words, any government enterprise that would either inhibit his business profits or increase his taxes. He hasn’t changed. As Mayer details, Koch-supported lobbyists, foundations and political operatives are at the center of climate-science denial — a cause that forestalls threats to Koch Industries’ vast fossil fuel business. While Koch foundations donate to cancer hospitals like Memorial Sloan-Kettering in New York, Koch Industries has been lobbying to stop the Environmental Protection Agency from classifying another product important to its bottom line, formaldehyde, as a “known carcinogen” in humans (which it is).

 

Tea Partiers may share the Kochs’ detestation of taxes, big government and Obama. But there’s a difference between mainstream conservatism and a fringe agenda that tilts completely toward big business, whether on Wall Street or in the Gulf of Mexico, while dismantling fundamental government safety nets designed to protect the unemployed, public health, workplace safety and the subsistence of the elderly.

 

Yet inexorably the Koch agenda is morphing into the G.O.P. agenda, as articulated by current Republican members of Congress, including the putative next speaker of the House, John Boehner, and Tea Party Senate candidates like Rand Paul, Sharron Angle, and the new kid on the block, Alaska’s anti-Medicaid, anti-unemployment insurance Palin protégé, Joe Miller. Their program opposes a federal deficit, but has no objection to running up trillions in red ink in tax cuts to corporations and the superrich; apologizes to corporate malefactors like BP and derides money put in escrow for oil spill victims as a “slush fund”; opposes the extension of unemployment benefits; and calls for a freeze on federal regulations in an era when abuses in the oil, financial, mining, pharmaceutical and even egg industries (among others) have been outrageous.

 

The Koch brothers must be laughing all the way to the bank knowing that working Americans are aiding and abetting their selfish interests. And surely Murdoch is snickering at those protesting the “ground zero mosque.” Last week on “Fox and Friends,” the Bush administration flacks Dan Senor and Dana Perino attacked a supposedly terrorism-tainted Saudi prince whose foundation might contribute to the Islamic center. But as “The Daily Show” keeps pointing out, these Fox bloviators never acknowledge that the evil prince they’re bashing, Walid bin Talal, is not only the biggest non-Murdoch shareholder in Fox News’s parent company (he owns 7 percent of News Corporation) and the recipient of Murdoch mammoth investments in Saudi Arabia but also the subject of lionization elsewhere on Fox.

 

No less a Murdoch factotum than Neil Cavuto slobbered over bin Talal in a Fox Business Channel interview as recently as January, with nary a question about his supposed terrorist ties. Instead, bin Talal praised Obama’s stance on terrorism and even endorsed the Democrats’ goal of universal health insurance. Do any of the Fox-watching protestors at the “ground zero mosque” know that Fox’s profits are flowing to a Obama-sympathizing Saudi billionaire in bed with Murdoch? As Jon Stewart summed it up, the protestors who want “to cut off funding to the ‘terror mosque’ ” are aiding that funding by watching Fox and enhancing bin Talal’s News Corp. holdings.

 

When wolves of Murdoch’s ingenuity and the Kochs’ stealth have been at the door of our democracy in the past, Democrats have fought back fiercely. Franklin Roosevelt’s triumphant 1936 re-election campaign pummeled the Liberty League as a Republican ally eager to “squeeze the worker dry in his old age and cast him like an orange rind into the refuse pail.” When John Kennedy’s patriotism was assailed by Birchers calling for impeachment, he gave a major speech denouncing their “crusades of suspicion.”

 

And Obama? So far, sadly, this question answers itself.

[MightyMightyMezz]

So Zionist terrorism or international influence of the nefarious Tea Party?

 

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/146038

Anders Behring Breivik, who committed the massacre in Norway on Friday in which over 90 people were murdered, spoke out in the past against Islam and said that he is a strong supporter of Israel, Channel 2 News reported on Sunday.

 

According to the report, in an English document he published on the Internet before the massacre, Breivik called himself a strong supporter of Zionism, praised Theodor Herzl the founder of Zionism, and attacked the European political establishment because he saw it as being anti-Israel.

 

[Kevin]

The people with the craziest ideas are the ones most sure of them. Seems that the most crazy ideas can get you into powerful circles nowadays. Can't beat 'em, join 'em.

 

I had to stay away from the news for a few days. Couldn't read it any more. Too heavy on the heart. Makes me very sad and I need to keep a positive attitude with these procedures coming up.

 

 

Peace.

[MightyMightyMezz]

I mean this is a blatant Zionist terror attack by a man who hates Norwegian support for the people of Palestine but all we can do here is try to pin blame on the Tea Party? Not even acknowledging this damning information exposing Breivik as a Zio-terrorist (not like he is trying to hide it!?) Let's get real, my friend.

[mosshowd]

I mean this is a blatant Zionist terror attack by a man who hates Norwegian support for the people of Palestine but all we can do here is try to pin blame on the Tea Party? Not even acknowledging this damning information exposing Breivik as a Zio-terrorist (not like he is trying to hide it!?) Let's get real, my friend.

I'm with you MEZZ

[MightyMightyMezz]

I'm with you MEZZ

 

Glad to hear it, mosshowd.

 

I don't keep up with the mass media that much so is it correct what I am hearing that this is being spun as anything but a Zionist terror attack on TV? That Breivik is being painted as a Nazi, not a Zionist?

[solabeirtan]

Mez with all due respecct aren't zionism and nazism about the same thing ? As in Not kind to Hebrews ? You mezzin with my mind ?

 

Thought he was more anti Islamist ? as in Not kind to Muslims / Arabs

 

Regardless it was anti Identity Politics as in Not like us ... Paranoia , Hatred , Biggotry , ... despicable in any language. Esp Today

 

....peace

[MightyMightyMezz]

Mez with all due respecct aren't zionism and nazism about the same thing ? As in Not kind to Hebrews ? You mezzin with my mind ?

 

Thought he was more anti Islamist ? as in Not kind to Muslims / Arabs

 

Regardless it was anti Identity Politics as in Not like us ... Paranoia , Hatred , Biggotry , ... despicable in any language. Esp Today

 

....peace

 

 

Zionism

[solabeirtan]

Just trying to add a little clarity to the issue, from your link :

 

"...In several online postings, Anders Behring Breivik, the confessed perpetrator of the attack, promoted fiercely anti-Islamic and far-right Zionist views, calling for “the deportation of all Muslims from Europe” as well as from “the West Bank and the Gaza Strip.”

Read more: http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Politics/2011/Jul-26/Hezbollah-Norway-attack-shows-Zionisms-perils.ashx#ixzz1TF8wPIAA

(The Daily Star :: Lebanon News :: http://www.dailystar.com.lb) "

OK, he was both ! ty

 

[MightyMightyMezz]

Just trying to add a little clarity to the issue, from your link :

 

"...In several online postings, Anders Behring Breivik, the confessed perpetrator of the attack, promoted fiercely anti-Islamic and far-right Zionist views, calling for “the deportation of all Muslims from Europe” as well as from “the West Bank and the Gaza Strip.”

Read more: http://www.dailystar...x#ixzz1TF8wPIAA

(The Daily Star :: Lebanon News :: http://www.dailystar.com.lb) "

OK, he was both ! ty

 

 

My friend, far-right Zionists are anti-Islamic.

 

 

Another thing he is is a Freemason. If you've ever heard much about Masonic conspiracies it makes you think.

 

[+wolfgang]

Glad to hear it, mosshowd.

 

I don't keep up with the mass media that much so is it correct what I am hearing that this is being spun as anything but a Zionist terror attack on TV? That Breivik is being painted as a Nazi, not a Zionist?

me too Im with ya,lets hold ppl accountable that do these hideous acts,and not blame the tea party for god's sake,or anyone else for that matter.And what is wrong with the idea of taking our country back from the OVERLY OBESE GOVT?(not with a mass massacre of COARSE)I mean we talk about it everyday on here,in regards to OUR law,because both sides dont be decieved the dems are all on our side,some are and some repubs are.Of coarse you always do it peacefully,that man who killed all those ppl was not how you get the govt to pay attention to you or get your point across. and to my knowledge the tea party has not killed anyone.

[+wolfgang]

Tea Party In Crisis

 

For weeks now the debt ceiling, debt crisis and just about everything wrong in the nation has been attributed to the Tea Party influence. This past week end another chapter of disaster emerged across screens and headlines of the world–

 

‘Right Wing Extremist Rampage in Norway’

 

Without looking behind the scenes of the mass murder, media outlets jumped forward with claims of right wing extremism as the cause. We, who hold to limiting government, should learn to define our cause, and reaffirm our stance on violence, lest we lend credence to the position we are “mass murderers in waiting.” The Norwegian massacre was murder. One could use the current ‘hate crime’ laws to define it as terrorism. Regardless of the definition, the crime was mass murder. Which has no place inside the discussion of government in our lives.

 

Today, you may be feeling a bit guilty for attending that rally in protest of central government’s expansion. Or, maybe, you didn’t even notice the headlines, as you are not a right wing extremist. Or, are you? Do you notice how Christian always gets tagged onto domestic “right wing” terrorist? That should concern you even if you did not attend a rally. To classify religion as one of the factors in extremism borders on hysterical.

 

You can be assured the the media and government agencies linking the terms right wing, Christian and extremism together have a plan. The concept of creating scapegoats started long before Hitler rounded up Jewish citizens, but, the similarity should not be avoided when observing today’s governmental attitude toward anyone who does not conform to its self identity.

 

The thought crossed my mind that I should close my site. Not because of what I say, but, to eliminate the potential for some government agency to link me to another’s actions, as has happened in Europe. Blogs such as Brussels Journal, which I have quoted, are named as fuel for the rage of a madman. Which in a court of law would be laughable, but, why go through the hassle? Eliciting violence has never been a tenant of this author nor of those posts which I’ve read in BJ. A blogger named, Fjordman, was quoted in the murderer’s manifesto. (Why is it madmen must post manifestos?) I’ve seen some Fjordman’s posts. Yes, they are extreme for Europe’s politically correct, passive culture. But, do they express a sentiment within Europe. I ask should all aspects be open for debate or are we entering an era of thought suppression?

 

Uber-National or Multicultural

 

Multiculturalism and Nationalism are opposite ends of the political spectrum today. But, then, what isn’t in today’s media war to define the politically correct. Once upon a time, media sought to be outside on the outside as a an observer. Today, the media has loaded up with writers on the extreme ends of the spectrum. Blogs emerged as a counter to the mainstream media’s left leaning agenda. Even mainstream operations such as U.S. television networks jumped the “reporting” ship and became little more than mouthpieces for Western Democratic Socialism.

 

If one in Europe wants to point fingers at the U.S. as being a cowboy culture populated with hairy toed neanderthals, go ahead. But, I must ask,’

 

“how is that multicultural, Western Democratic Socialism working out for you?”

 

“Great,” you say?

 

In response I point to the PIIGS and France. We all know, or should know about the financial meltdown of PIIGS and the recent default of Greece. While EU managed, it is none-the-less, default. Behind the doors in Brussels, they are attempting to allow Ireland and Portugal the same. Then there is France, home to the Invisible Committee, authors of “Coming Insurrection.” I might classify the work as an anarchist handbook for destroying civil society. Along with anarchists galore, France fights and ongoing battle in the suburbs against “the jobless” society created by it’s liberal social security support system.

 

This is not a time for blame, or castigation. The time has come to review where we are and where we are headed. Do we really want ethnic cleansing across the globe? Are we prepared to live under totalitarian government? Do we really believe the rich man is “keeping us down?” Are we so stupid as to believe the populist crap being spewed out by government after government? Populism is no more valid than ultra nationalism as a reason to vote for a person or party.

 

We Are the Government

 

As citizens of a Republic, we must be the governing, not the governed. Cogitate on that a bit. Yes, we are the governing of the Republic. We elect our representatives who in turn vote for us in state and national bodies. If the elected do not reflect our views we “must” replace them, not make excuses for them. Nor should we hide behind the old adage, “there’s nothing I can do.”

 

The people of Norway did not hatch a mass murderer. Nor, did Fjordman nor Brussels Journal create him. The man who took it upon himself to plan and execute mass murder, and, is alone the responsible party. Somewhere out there on the internet realms of plans to do heinous deeds exist. But, that does not mean I must read them, nor does it mean I can point to them as a defense.

 

We saw the same accusation when a man in Arizona shot and killed people in a parking lot on a Saturday morning. He too had an agenda. He too had been on the internet, and had decided his only means of coping with his insanity was to do harm to others. When the media and the government find snippets of fodder for their agenda, they should be shamed for their efforts to turn criminal acts into political events.

 

While in Norway a man felt his murder of innocents was a message to change the conditions, he had no valid offering for real change. Real change involves every individual’s understanding of the workings of society and government. Otherwise, people get left behind, or resist change. Even if the government believes the path to a ‘brave new world’ lies in multiculturalism, that does not make it fact. Nor, does it mean, the greater population agrees. We here in the ‘wild wild western’ USA, in the majority, resist larger government, and the Western Democratic Socialist model. In a Republic, we have the right to resist and change. Efforts to shame us, or indict us does not make us wrong. We are, in fact, the government. We choose our form of government and our laws.

 

To give over the control of our society, culture and government to a small group of individuals makes no sense. In my opinion, it is the recipe for cultural and political suicide. But, to avoid that, we must be active participants in the political process. Which then brings us back to the difference between a representational democracy and a true democracy.

 

Look for the Scapegoats

 

The Founding Fathers understood the problems with pure democracy. They also knew of the perils of a population which saw a benefit to voting itself favors. We rapidly approach the day when more U.S. citizens receive government benefits than do not. At that point the Republic will be in the hands of a majority, which will not view “responsibility” as the guiding light in government.

 

Today we should be wondering how soon the boots will be headed to the doors of those labeled as extremists only because of their religion, the resistance to larger government, or merely want to voice their opinion in a peaceful manner. Remember, corrupt governments and politicians use scapegoats.

[solabeirtan]

 

 

 

Another thing he is is a Freemason. If you've ever heard much about Masonic conspiracies it makes you think.

 

 

That's where the conspiracy theories take off. Freemason as in Knights Templar?

 

Knights Templar is the name of the latest cartel 'gang' in Mexico. They are anti-Drugs, drug dealers and propose themselves to be the ultimate solution. Kinda like a CIA / DEA plot to me ... They have set up shop in an area of Michoacan that Govt claims they have eliminated the Zetas, etc...

[+wolfgang]

But blaming Sarah Palin for Jared Loughner, or Al Gore for the Unabomber makes about as much sense as blaming Martin Scorsese and Jodie Foster for inciting John Hinckley. There's little to be learned from the acts of "the obsessed and deranged." But these incidents ought to teach us not to use tragedy to score partisan points.

[mosshowd]

When it comes to Muslem Americans it comes to one simple statement for me.

 

IF YOU CONSIDER ME YOUR EQUAL, I WILL STAND WITH YOU!

IF YOU CONSIDER ME AN INFIDEL, I WILL STAND AGINST YOU.

 

Can't put it any simpler than that!