Philly Building Collapse - My Thoughts

[solabeirtan]

Very sad epitath for these victims. The real culprits in this tragedy, go from the Gov down. They issued the Permit. The least they could have done is protect the citizens. How could they issue a permit to tear down a 50' Bldg with a Machine that has a 15' reach. Not closing the adjacent Business is Negligent Homicide. Irresponsible. Thoughtless. Ignorant...

 

Philly Tradgedy

 

Edited June 8, 2013 by solabeirtan

[Spartyon]

I missed something how is cannabis involved didn't hear it mentioned.

[solabeirtan]

Yes my bad. Check this one out. They have a witch hunt out for the Operator. He sounds to be from a foreign country.   

 

And another, seems to be ongoing {for most} developing event.

Edited June 8, 2013 by solabeirtan

[solabeirtan]

Wow my thoughts are not my own anymore? Any explanations ?  

[Kingdiamond]

I missed something how is cannabis involved didn't hear it mentioned.

They are charging the excavator operator with negligent manslaughter and a drug test showed he was under the influence or had THC in his system but im sure if it were vics or methadone he would have been fine.

[solabeirtan]

Right and it was his fault there were people in the building next door. A one store building. They're tearing down the 4 story building next door.

 

It's the guys fault that was operating a machine? Was it his machine? Is his name on the Permit? Did they have Insurance?  Where was the City Building Inspector ?

 

They deny any responsibility 'cause the operator had traces of Cannabis in his system ? Although unfortunate I don't see how that  creates a  blanket style conviction.

Seems that is the only factor involved. Prior to any investigation or determination of liability.

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Updated 5:00pm CNN News

 

The Operator has just turned himself in. They found a woman sometime this morning that was buried over 12 hrs. Shes alive and in Penn St Hospital.

Edited June 8, 2013 by solabeirtan

[Kingdiamond]

Someone didn't contact a engineer that's on the construction company owner that building should have been torn down from the top floor down hard to blame poor planning on some poor slobs choice of a after work cocktail.

[solabeirtan]

Who issued the Permit, KD? What were his qualifications? Where was he, when the incident occured? He had something more important to do? Why don't they share responsibility? 

 

Why didn't the Permit state your conditions? 

Edited June 8, 2013 by solabeirtan

[Chauncy Gardner]

A friend of mine believes that if you are in an accident where the other person is at fault and you have cannabis in your system, they will find a way to make you the one at fault.

 

It looks like that theory is in play in this situation. Typical Republican tactics. Blame the victim.

[Kingdiamond]

A friend of mine believes that if you are in an accident where the other person is at fault and you have cannabis in your system, they will find a way to make you the one at fault.

Its only because it has happened here in Michigan a young high school senior was out driving up telegraph and she was a casual user non medical a woman who had multiple DUIs came up the southbound lanes and hit this teen girl and dies the police pull blood on this girl she has THC in her system from weeks before she's convicted of dui causing death ill see if I can find the news link it happened in  09 or 10 I think south of Warren in Dearborn heights .

[pic book]

My god sounds horrific.

What about the driver who died?  What was her BAC?

[Kingdiamond]

She was a longtime alcoholic with her kids in the car as well cant remember what they said her BAC was but she had prior DUIs some rich woman from Farmington hills I think I remember.

[pic book]

A friend of mine believes that if you are in an accident where the other person is at fault and you have cannabis in your system, they will find a way to make you the one at fault.

At a Federal Motor Carrier rules and insurance seminar in 2004 for trucking company owners, put on by insurance companies, one companies' atty explained why their company had a 'no reinsure' cannabis driver ban, by saying exactly that:  the company insuring the cannabis-positive driver always loses even if the other driver is drunk, even if the cannabis driver had a complete and accurate log book and the drunk driver didn't keep one.    

 

 

A friend of mine believes that if you are in an accident where the other person is at fault and you have cannabis in your system, they will find a way to make you the one at fault.

 

It looks like that theory is in play in this situation. Typical Republican tactics. Blame the victim.

Edited June 10, 2013 by pic book

[pic book]

I only had 1 driver who tested positive (and given the test protocol and its random computer selection, think it unlikely anyone evaded detection).   After the federally-mandated treatment, that driver went to a national giant that self-insured.  (We were tiny).

Our pee test by the way--at the insurance company's requirement--was conducted with a licensed nurse direct-on observing collection thru a glass wall, and the diriver had to stay turned directly toward her.  Prior to driver's entry into that cube the nurse observed as driver dropped trou. She was looking and feeeling for any tube or pouch taped along a leg.  And there was no toilet in the room, just a table.  A hand sterilizer was on the table with towels.  A chair was the only other thing in the room.  Specimen temp was recorded upon draw and then continuously for an hour.

By the way, with Somali drivers it is not mj use.  It's khat and at that time khat was not screened for.

Edited June 10, 2013 by pic book