GregS Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 The alkaline solution produced is sodium hydroxide, essentially soap, and costs pennies to make. The principle is essentially the same as using safer soap. The stuff destroys mites' exoskeletons. Whexissilla 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pic book Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 (edited) i have had perfect success with wipeout, so am not looking back to what did not work (MIGHTY WASH) even after multiple applications. Edited January 27, 2014 by pic book Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingdiamond Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 Mighty wash did nothing but make my finished medicine taste like lilacs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregS Posted January 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 (edited) Mighty wash did nothing but make my finished medicine taste like lilacs. The stuff rinses clean with clear cold water. It is a mild soap. That might have made a difference. Edited January 27, 2014 by GregS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregS Posted January 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 i have had perfect success with wipeout, so am not looking back to what did not work (MIGHTY WASH) even after multiple applications. Will you plz give me a link to the wipeout product? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiMedical Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 I have used it a few times, only took one application, in veg. Worked great for me, I believe they also make a rinse solution? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregS Posted January 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 (edited) I have used it a few times, only took one application, in veg. Worked great for me, I believe they also make a rinse solution? Around here we call that clear, cold water. If you want to neutralize the ph, you can use the acid solution made during the process or a little lemon juice or vinegar in water. This is verry basic chemistry. Edited January 27, 2014 by GregS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pic book Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 (edited) the wipeout labels say for contact, email: kbandkdistributors@aol.com. manufactured by b and k distributors, 1247 grand river, howell, mi 48843 Edited January 27, 2014 by pic book Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pic book Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 wipeout: $25 per quart, $40 per gallon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregS Posted January 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 (edited) Electrolytically derived alkaline solution made with four gallons of water and a couple tsp of salt-5 cents a gallon, and enough change to get a beer, if you can find beer for fifteen cents. Edited January 28, 2014 by GregS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Lab Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 'Frequency Water" File that next to Bigfoot, Mayan calendars, and y2k. I wood 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trichcycler Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 theres a drop of oil in there to I believe. lavender, or something. and that would need to mixed with a soap or something to keep the oil in solution? when I sprayed a gnat, the gnat died. but his brother was sprayed with canola oil/soap/water mix, and he died too. that one only cost pennies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregS Posted January 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 (edited) theres a drop of oil in there to I believe. lavender, or something. and that would need to mixed with a soap or something to keep the oil in solution? when I sprayed a gnat, the gnat died. but his brother was sprayed with canola oil/soap/water mix, and he died too. that one only cost pennies. The hydroxide would emulsify a little oil, but I wonder if that is necessary. To my knowledge there is no oil in Safer Soap. Another aspect of Mighty Wash is that sales reps wow customers by drinking the stuff. The hydroxide has been hyped as a healthy drink and used for that purpose. It is notable that the company does not list the ingredients on the label, except to say it is 99% water and some inert ingredient. My premise is that the inert ingredient is common table salt. If you want to get silly you can use sea salt or pickling salt, but it is chemically identical. The first step is to build one of these and start to experiment. The time for talk is over. I'll shop today for parts, and ask that others do the same and compare notes. Perhaps experiment with different ph levels. Hey. It's sub zero out there. We need an indoor diversion. I have several ac device chargers if anyone needs one. A six volt battery works too. Edited January 28, 2014 by GregS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blindman21 Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 wipe out has been banned by the Michigan Dept of Agriculgture It worked great and smelled like a mild spice. wipeout: $25 per quart, $40 per gallon. the wipeout labels say for contact, email: kbandkdistributors@aol.com. manufactured by b and k distributors, 1247 grand river, howell, mi 48843 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trichcycler Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 wow, surprising ! Dept of Agri allows all kinds of nasty poisons as food fertilizers. I hope no patients were harmed by the Wipe Out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trichcycler Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 "Soap" is saponated "oil". oil and wax and soap are basically three of the same thing. Chemically, there is little difference between oils, fats and waxes. Vegetable oil in its purest form is a mixture of several triglycerides. A triglyceride is basically a molecule of glycerin with three fatty acid chains attached. The difference between an oil and a wax is the melting point. An oil is a liquid at room temperature and a wax is a hard solid at room temperature. In between these two are fats that are substances that are soft solids at room temperature. Consequently, making wax from vegetable oil is very similar to making margarine from corn oil. The main methods used are hydrogenation and fractionation, (using heat and catalysts). The hydroxide would emulsify a little oil, but I wonder if that is necessary. To my knowledge there is no oil in Safer Soap. Another aspect of Mighty Wash is that sales reps wow customers by drinking the stuff. The hydroxide has been hyped as a healthy drink and used for that purpose. It is notable that the company does not list the ingredients on the label, except to say it is 99% water and some inert ingredient. My premise is that the inert ingredient is common table salt. If you want to get silly you can use sea salt or pickling salt, but it is chemically identical. The first step is to build one of these and start to experiment. The time for talk is over. I'll shop today for parts, and ask that others do the same and compare notes. Perhaps experiment with different ph levels. Hey. It's sub zero out there. We need an indoor diversion. I have several ac device chargers if anyone needs one. A six volt battery works too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmiej48 Posted February 2, 2014 Report Share Posted February 2, 2014 Mighty wash has helped me and my final finish witch I just got done tasted excellent and I will use this again if needed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregS Posted February 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 (edited) "Soap" is saponated "oil". oil and wax and soap are basically three of the same thing. Chemically, there is little difference between oils, fats and waxes. Vegetable oil in its purest form is a mixture of several triglycerides. A triglyceride is basically a molecule of glycerin with three fatty acid chains attached. The difference between an oil and a wax is the melting point. An oil is a liquid at room temperature and a wax is a hard solid at room temperature. In between these two are fats that are substances that are soft solids at room temperature. Consequently, making wax from vegetable oil is very similar to making margarine from corn oil. The main methods used are hydrogenation and fractionation, (using heat and catalysts). Sodium hydroxide is lye with caustic properties and is an ingredient in some soaps. It is used for many other purposes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_hydroxide http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soap Edited February 3, 2014 by GregS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pic book Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 the first quote that blind man 21 attributes to me i never made and is a fabrication. I cannot get either of them to quote that's why the blank.. Zap: was this the bug in the system that dropped it recently? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pic book Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 i know and said nothing about the Dept. of Agriculture. Wipeout banned? I never said that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pic book Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 wow, surprising ! Dept of Agri allows all kinds of nasty poisons as food fertilizers. I hope no patients were harmed by the Wipe the thing is, i didn't write what blindman 21 quoted! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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