August 3- Date Concentrates/edibles Become Illegal?

[Natesilver]

21 days from coa ruling. Someone (whose understanding of the law I find suspect) insisted it wasn't til aug 3 that concentrates/edibles become illegal. Their reasoning is that is the time frame for an appeal to be filed. I don't recall anyone saying the Koon coa case wasn't effective immediately

[cristinew]

NO your wrong,,  The weight limits are illegal  over 2,5  your over ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

[cristinew]

Make hash oil,, keep the weights down  forget butter it not good for you anyway,,,,,,,,,,,

[cristinew]

(k) "Usable marihuana" means the dried leaves and flowers of the marihuana plant, and any mixture or preparation thereof

 

From what i understand they cannot tell how much cannabis is in your pound of butter,... so your over the limit,,,,,,,

 

(k) "Usable marihuana" means the dried leaves and flowers of the marihuana plant, and any mixture or preparation thereof

 

2,5  oz  limit  no pound of butter,  

[Natesilver]

Make hash oil,, keep the weights down  forget butter it not good for you anyway,,,,,,,,,,,

 

But if hash oil isn't covered by section 4, it wouldn't matter if you're under or over 2.5 oz....

[cristinew]

Not the way i read it,,   2,5 oz   what ever it is   if you have a pound of butter your over they do not know how much cannabis is in it  Hash ,, hash oil ..you can just weight it,,   Hash oil Hash is covered if you do not exceed the 2,5     butter  cookies  brownies  ext,  they say they have no way of knowing how much is in it ,, so no protections over the 2,5 limit   , that is they way i read it,,, anyway.

Edited July 18, 2013 by cristinew

[cristinew]

They did not rule  on hash oil  they ruled on food  that they cannot determine the weight ,, I am sure the supreme  will clear this up  but always  never go over your 2.5  what ever it is ,,,

[CaveatLector]

21 days from coa ruling. Someone (whose understanding of the law I find suspect) insisted it wasn't til aug 3 that concentrates/edibles become illegal. Their reasoning is that is the time frame for an appeal to be filed. I don't recall anyone saying the Koon coa case wasn't effective immediately

You had good reason to find their understanding of the law suspect because they are wrong.  The COA opinion tells us that you do not have protection for anything that is not "usable marijuana."  That means you didn't have protection from day 1 of the med. mj act.  They have been, and continue to be, "illegal."

[CaveatLector]

They did not rule  on hash oil  they ruled on food  that they cannot determine the weight ,, I am sure the supreme  will clear this up  but always  never go over your 2.5  what ever it is ,,,

No, oil is included.  Based on the ruling oil is not, "usable marijuana" and therefore "illegal."

[GregS]

The COA is just shameless. Even after having their azzes handed to them repeatedly by the SC, they are determined to stay with anything but respectable judicial behavior.

[cristinew]

anything that is not "usable marijuana."   quote  

 

 

A living plant is not usable... so that is illegal too?

Edited July 18, 2013 by cristinew

[abe supercro]

Carruthers can be contacted by a ppl search online.

[cristinew]

We use the oil  ,,

[Natesilver]

We use the oil  ,,

 

No, oil is not covered under section 4. You can be arrested for possessing a gram

Edited July 18, 2013 by Natesilver

[cristinew]

Better cut down the plants they are not usable and illegal now   I guess our law is over with,, 

[cristinew]

So are Mixtures    (k) "Usable marihuana" means the dried leaves and flowers of the marihuana plant, and any mixture or preparation thereof

[GregS]

What, then, are the mixtures and preparations thereof that the law protects?

 

Because the definition of usable marijuana is found in sec. 3 definitions, would that not also apply to sec. 8?

[CaveatLector]

Better cut down the plants they are not usable and illegal now   I guess our law is over with,, 

Aweome idea!  Throw the baby out with the bath water.

 

As Zap stated, plants are protected.  Usable material is defined, in part, as the dried leaves and flowers.  "Any mixture thereof," means a mixture containing the dried leaves and/or flowers.  Oil contains neither.  It only contains PART of the dried leaves and/or flowers.

 

The way out of this is to argue that oil is a "preparation" of the dried leaves and/or flowers but such a preparation is also protected.  That is why either 1) Carruthers needs to go to the Supremes or 2) The legislature needs to change the law.

[CaveatLector]

What, then, are the mixtures and preparations thereof that the law protects?

 

Because the definition of usable marijuana is found in sec. 3 definitions, would that not also apply to sec. 8?

Sec. 8 doesn't  use the term "usable marijuana" so it isn't relevant in that section.  It uses the term, "marijuana" which, for purposes of the MMA, is defined by the Pub. Health Code.

[cristinew]

Put a little  leaf in your oil,, just a little tiny one,

[CaveatLector]

Put a little  leaf in your oil,, just a little tiny one,

Uhhh, so a small bottle of oil with a tiny leaf is gonna work ya think?  It won't be obvious to the casual observer that all that oil did NOT come from a "tiny" leaf?

[GregS]

Sec. 8 doesn't  use the term "usable marijuana" so it isn't relevant in that section.  It uses the term, "marijuana" which, for purposes of the MMA, is defined by the Pub. Health Code.

Whew! Sec. 8 wins again.

 

How about that?

Edited July 18, 2013 by GregS

[cristinew]

I guess they are forcing us to smoke raw cannabis  with worthless  fibers ,  how nice of them  

[Celliach]

anything that is not "usable marijuana."   quote  

 

 

A living plant is not usable... so that is illegal too?

 

No, there's a separate provision for that.

[cristinew]

where?