Mi Under Attack By The Dnr -

[+wolfgang]

asking for anyone living in cheboygan mich to show up in court to support a farmer there,they had to kill their pigs before the DNR showed up or the would have been looking at being a felon. WTF???

[knucklehead bob]

http://www.naturalnews.com/035596_Michigan_DNR_Rodney_Stokes.html All kinds of Nazi things happening !

[Bisharoo]

[Darkmatter]

Madness! :wacko:

 

Looks like they have found a new way to keep the small business down.

[Northern Lab]

The MIDNR are pig racists yo!

 

Total insanity trying to tell people their pigs are the wrong color. WTF???

 

These are the same people that thought bringing back an elk herd to Otsego County without enough food to support them was a great idea. Now the herd is split in two, and they're running rampant destroying farm fields, breaking down fences, releasing livestock, etc.

 

Brilliant idea.

[Restorium2]

April 10, 2012

 

Contact: Ed Golder, 517-335-3014

 

Michigan Department of Natural Resources files suit against hunting ranch

 

 

On Tuesday, April 10, 2012, the Michigan Department of Natural Resources filed a civil complaint against Ronald McKendrick and Charlene McKendrick, who own and operate the Renegade Ranch Hunting Preserve in Cheboygan County. The McKendricks are being sued for violations of Michigan’s Invasive Species Act, which outlaws certain types of swine.

 

The complaint, brought in Cheboygan County Circuit Court, asks the court to require the McKendricks to comply with the state’s Invasive Species Act and to remove prohibited swine from their property.

 

The court action is part of the DNR’s enforcement of a December 2010 Invasive Species Order that declares certain types of swine illegal. The order addresses the significant threat posed by invasive swine to agriculture and the environment in Michigan. The prohibited animals carry diseases that can devastate domestic livestock. Also, the swine engage in behaviors – rooting and wallowing – that damage soils, crops and waters.

 

The Invasive Species Order applies to wild boar, wild hog, wild swine, feral pig, feral hog, feral swine, Old world swine, razorback, eurasian wild boar, Russian wild boar (Sus scrofa Linnaeus). The order does not apply to domestic swine, Sus domestica, in domestic hog production. A December 2011 declaratory ruling from the DNR defines the physical characteristics used to identify prohibited swine.

 

The Invasive Species Order went into effect Oct. 8, 2011. However, to give those in possession of prohibited swine every opportunity to come into compliance with the law, the DNR delayed enforcement of the order for an additional six months, until April 1, 2012. Last year, the DNR contacted people believed to have prohibited swine to inform them about the timeline for enforcement.

 

Those facilities, farms or individuals still in possession of prohibited swine are in violation of the law and could face criminal or civil penalties under Part 413 of the state’s Natural Resources and Environmental Protection Act. Part 413, a section titled “Transgenic and Non-Native Organisms,” is commonly known as the Invasive Species Act.

 

“In implementing this order for the protection of Michigan’s environment and economy, the department has sought to work cooperatively with property owners wherever it can,” said DNR Director Rodney Stokes. “For that reason, enforcement actions thus far have involved voluntary compliance inspections. Where prohibited swine continue to be held, property owners must come into compliance with the law.”

 

Pursuant to enforcement of the Invasive Species Order, DNR officials on April 3, 2012, visited the Renegade Ranch. The ranch has in the past been known to possess swine that are prohibited under the order. DNR officials asked permission to inspect the facility for prohibited animals. Ronald McKendrick denied the DNR access.

 

In conjunction with the visit, DNR officials received information to suggest there are prohibited swine on the McKendricks’ property.

 

The complaint against the McKendricks seeks court-imposed fines for possession of a prohibited species and the sale or offering for sale of a prohibited species. The complaint asks the court to compel the McKendricks to depopulate remaining prohibited swine. In addition, the complaint seeks recovery of costs to the state for preventing or minimizing damages to natural resources caused by the prohibited species. Civil fines for violating the cited sections of the Invasive Species Act range from $1,000 to $20,000 per violation.

 

More information about the Invasive Species Order and the problem of invasive swine in Michigan and across the country can be found at DNR Feral Swine Redirect.

 

The Michigan Department of Natural Resources is committed to the conservation, protection, management, use and enjoyment of the state's natural and cultural resources for current and future generations. For more information, go to DNR - Department of Natural Resources.

[solabeirtan]

Kosher Pigs vs Multicultural Pigs ? Whats next ? I think its a new strain of Human Mad Pig disease.

[LongHairBri]

Now, don't get pissy. I'm a city boy and don't know bunny muffin. But, have you ever seen an 800lb. hog running wild? or the damage they do? Louisanna has a HUGE problem. open season and no limits. I'm not talking out in the boon docks. Metairie, Kenner and Slidell surround New Orleans and all have feral hog problems.

 

they ARE good eating!!

[Restorium2]

[Northern Lab]

Now, don't get pissy. I'm a city boy and don't know bunny muffin. But, have you ever seen an 800lb. hog running wild? or the damage they do? Louisanna has a HUGE problem. open season and no limits. I'm not talking out in the boon docks. Metairie, Kenner and Slidell surround New Orleans and all have feral hog problems.

 

they ARE good eating!!

 

MMMM, feral pig...

 

If they're running wild on public and other private land, I could see the justification for eliminating them.

 

I think people have a right to keep whatever livestock they wish for food purposes, as long as it stays on their property and they have effective barriers to prevent escape. This is classic over-reaction from the DNR.

 

Of course, they're not the least bit concerned with herds of one ton elk running wild, destroying property and crops all over the place.

 

Huge double standard. Typical incompetence in MI state government, and the DNR in particular.

[+wolfgang]

April 10, 2012

 

Contact: Ed Golder, 517-335-3014

 

Michigan Department of Natural Resources files suit against hunting ranch

 

 

On Tuesday, April 10, 2012, the Michigan Department of Natural Resources filed a civil complaint against Ronald McKendrick and Charlene McKendrick, who own and operate the Renegade Ranch Hunting Preserve in Cheboygan County. The McKendricks are being sued for violations of Michigan’s Invasive Species Act, which outlaws certain types of swine.

 

The complaint, brought in Cheboygan County Circuit Court, asks the court to require the McKendricks to comply with the state’s Invasive Species Act and to remove prohibited swine from their property.

 

The court action is part of the DNR’s enforcement of a December 2010 Invasive Species Order that declares certain types of swine illegal. The order addresses the significant threat posed by invasive swine to agriculture and the environment in Michigan. The prohibited animals carry diseases that can devastate domestic livestock. Also, the swine engage in behaviors – rooting and wallowing – that damage soils, crops and waters.

 

The Invasive Species Order applies to wild boar, wild hog, wild swine, feral pig, feral hog, feral swine, Old world swine, razorback, eurasian wild boar, Russian wild boar (Sus scrofa Linnaeus). The order does not apply to domestic swine, Sus domestica, in domestic hog production. A December 2011 declaratory ruling from the DNR defines the physical characteristics used to identify prohibited swine.

 

The Invasive Species Order went into effect Oct. 8, 2011. However, to give those in possession of prohibited swine every opportunity to come into compliance with the law, the DNR delayed enforcement of the order for an additional six months, until April 1, 2012. Last year, the DNR contacted people believed to have prohibited swine to inform them about the timeline for enforcement.

 

Those facilities, farms or individuals still in possession of prohibited swine are in violation of the law and could face criminal or civil penalties under Part 413 of the state’s Natural Resources and Environmental Protection Act. Part 413, a section titled “Transgenic and Non-Native Organisms,” is commonly known as the Invasive Species Act.

 

“In implementing this order for the protection of Michigan’s environment and economy, the department has sought to work cooperatively with property owners wherever it can,” said DNR Director Rodney Stokes. “For that reason, enforcement actions thus far have involved voluntary compliance inspections. Where prohibited swine continue to be held, property owners must come into compliance with the law.”

 

Pursuant to enforcement of the Invasive Species Order, DNR officials on April 3, 2012, visited the Renegade Ranch. The ranch has in the past been known to possess swine that are prohibited under the order. DNR officials asked permission to inspect the facility for prohibited animals. Ronald McKendrick denied the DNR access.

 

In conjunction with the visit, DNR officials received information to suggest there are prohibited swine on the McKendricks’ property.

 

The complaint against the McKendricks seeks court-imposed fines for possession of a prohibited species and the sale or offering for sale of a prohibited species. The complaint asks the court to compel the McKendricks to depopulate remaining prohibited swine. In addition, the complaint seeks recovery of costs to the state for preventing or minimizing damages to natural resources caused by the prohibited species. Civil fines for violating the cited sections of the Invasive Species Act range from $1,000 to $20,000 per violation.

 

More information about the Invasive Species Order and the problem of invasive swine in Michigan and across the country can be found at DNR Feral Swine Redirect.

 

The Michigan Department of Natural Resources is committed to the conservation, protection, management, use and enjoyment of the state's natural and cultural resources for current and future generations. For more information, go to DNR - Department of Natural Resources.

where the hell is our Gov??protect and serve the folks sir!!

[Restorium2]

more info;

Renegade Ranch Hunting Preserve

Year-round hunting for buffalo, deer, exotics, elk and wild boar on a private 300 acre preserve located in Northern Michigan. Rainbow trout and hybrid bluegills are stocked in the pond behind the lodge and can be caught and kept for a fee. You must provide your own tackle and bait. Accommodations for up to 20 are available in the rustic lodge at Renegade Ranch and a hearty breakfast awaits you the morning of the hunt. A kitchen is furnished for your convenience. The skill of our guides, our facilities, and the personal attention you receive make our ranch...the hunter's choice.

 

 

 

 

 

 

http://www.michigan.org/property/detail.aspx?p=B9602

[solabeirtan]

Fattening snakes for frogs ? They are supposed to keep out the snakes

[+wolfgang]

more info;

Renegade Ranch Hunting Preserve

Year-round hunting for buffalo, deer, exotics, elk and wild boar on a private 300 acre preserve located in Northern Michigan. Rainbow trout and hybrid bluegills are stocked in the pond behind the lodge and can be caught and kept for a fee. You must provide your own tackle and bait. Accommodations for up to 20 are available in the rustic lodge at Renegade Ranch and a hearty breakfast awaits you the morning of the hunt. A kitchen is furnished for your convenience. The skill of our guides, our facilities, and the personal attention you receive make our ranch...the hunter's choice.

 

 

 

 

 

 

http://www.michigan.org/property/detail.aspx?p=B9602

heres the other farm that is being shut down.this farm the pigs are raised for food,so this other farm is hunting?I dont have an opinion about that(surprisingly)

 

http://www.bakersgreenacres.com/

[Celliach]

MMMM, feral pig...

 

If they're running wild on public and other private land, I could see the justification for eliminating them.

 

I think people have a right to keep whatever livestock they wish for food purposes, as long as it stays on their property and they have effective barriers to prevent escape. This is classic over-reaction from the DNR.

 

Of course, they're not the least bit concerned with herds of one ton elk running wild, destroying property and crops all over the place.

 

Huge double standard. Typical incompetence in MI state government, and the DNR in particular.

We already have escaped boars in most counties in Michigan. It's already becoming the problem it is in Louisiana. There was actually a valid reason for this. I believe the law was just passed also.

[Restorium2]

More info:

 

[+wolfgang]

We already have escaped boars in most counties in Michigan. It's already becoming the problem it is in Louisiana. There was actually a valid reason for this. I believe the law was just passed also.

a family trying to just put food on the table,the pigs are only called feral because they roam free on the farm,and if I ate pork thats how I'd want my pork.

watch the family farm video what is wrong with having a farm this way? If we KNOW anything from what we have gone through with our fight with the stae its you dont beleive EVERYTHING they put out as propaganda.

[Northern Lab]

We already have escaped boars in most counties in Michigan. It's already becoming the problem it is in Louisiana. There was actually a valid reason for this. I believe the law was just passed also.

 

I don't understand how it's valid for a state agency to order you to kill your livestock. As long as you have sufficient barriers keeping them on your own property, what's the problem?

 

Feral animals are a huge problem all over the state, I agree. What I don't agree with is shooting someone's animal because they *might* get out and contribute to the problem.

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Make them endure barrier inspection, set some standards for barriers, have them tagged/tracked, etc. but just killing them because something may happen at some point in the future is just downright wrong. It's a slippery slope.

[+wolfgang]

I don't understand how it's valid for a state agency to order you to kill your livestock. As long as you have sufficient barriers keeping them on your own property, what's the problem?

 

Feral animals are a huge problem all over the state, I agree. What I don't agree with is shooting someone's animal because they *might* get out and contribute to the problem.

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Make them endure barrier inspection, set some standards for barriers, have them tagged/tracked, etc. but just killing them because something may happen at some point in the future is just downright wrong. It's a slippery slope.

exactly I would rather take my chances of what 'might' happen if these pigs got loose,but the 2nd vid I posted I dont know how that could happen,these pigs are very kept very well and the farm seems secure to me.Let the family prosper.

[Restorium2]

The DNR needed more comprehensive language in their law so that farmers didn't get lumped in with hunt clubs. I guess it was just too difficult to fix the problem without harming these farmers.

[Northern Lab]

exactly I would rather take my chances of what 'might' happen if these pigs got loose,but the 2nd vid I posted I dont know how that could happen,these pigs are very kept very well and the farm seems secure to me.Let the family prosper.

 

I think embedded electronic tags like we put in our dogs would be a good option. That way, when a feral pig is killed, you can go back on the owner and fine them for allowing it to get out.

 

Next thing you know we'll be putting people in jail just in case they decide to do something.

 

I know that's a bit of a leap, but if we let this kind of mentality take root, we'll be there before you know it.

 

10 bucks says the commercial hog industry wrote this law. Just a guess....

[Restorium2]

The Bakers need to look at their neighbor hunt ranchers as the root of their troubles. Imagine trying to bury fence 2 foot under ground surrounding a 300 acre hunt club? We know where the pigs are coming from and it isn't the Bakers. How do you legally separate the two though? Is electronic tagging the answer? Does the state have the money to pay the DNR to go tag and monitor these animals?

[Celliach]

a family trying to just put food on the table,the pigs are only called feral because they roam free on the farm,and if I ate pork thats how I'd want my pork.

watch the family farm video what is wrong with having a farm this way? If we KNOW anything from what we have gone through with our fight with the stae its you dont beleive EVERYTHING they put out as propaganda.

 

How do you know this youtube video isn't propaganda? I'm not saying that it is, just that I don't know. It could be as big a pile of BS as the DNR is handing out.

[Northern Lab]

We've actually thought about keeping some heritage breed pastured pigs for food purposes.

 

Don't think I'll be doing that now.

[flyinstringbean]

If they escape,they aren't that easy to get back in the pen,and they can REALLY mess up an area!!REALLY!!