P2P In The Future.

[t-pain]

This is the question i want answered...

 

how many cases did the MSC overturn when it said sec8 doesnt require sec4 ?

how many cases had to be retried?

 

anyone have any numbers?

 

how many mmma patients have been brought up on marijuana manf/dist charges since 2008? are there any numbers?

Edited December 4, 2012 by t-pain

[CaveatLector]

This is the question i want answered...

 

how many cases did the MSC overturn when it said sec8 doesnt require sec4 ?

how many cases had to be retried?

 

anyone have any numbers?

Not aware of any organization that tracks those numbers.

[CaveatLector]

how many mmma patients have been brought up on marijuana manf/dist charges since 2008? are there any numbers?

No one tracks those numbers. Plenty though. I've seen it first-hand.

Edited December 4, 2012 by CaveatLector

[bobandtorey]

Well am not sure how long you have been on this site

You can read about are case and let us know what you think about it

I Like for others also to way in to because I just can't figurer it out after almost 4 years of us being in court

 

What is the State going to get from just two people that were following the Law 100%

[bobandtorey]

http://michiganmedicalmarijuana.org/forum/106-eric-l-vandussen-reports/

[cristinew]

I know of 13 people in the county next to me busted,, felony charges selling cannabis,,, they were caregivers,, now they are inmates,,

 

they thought the the COA ruling meant nothing,, they thought 4 e was a way to make money

[peanutbutter]

I know of 13 people in the county next to me busted,, felony charges selling cannabis,,, they were caregivers,, now they are inmates,,

 

they thought the the COA ruling meant nothing,, they thought 4 e was a way to make money

 

I've seen reports of officers shooting dogs.

 

Dogs must be illegal.

[CaveatLector]

I've seen reports of officers shooting dogs.

 

Dogs must be illegal.

Are you seriously trying to analogize or draw a parallel between that and a jury conviction?

[bobandtorey]

This is the question i want answered...

 

how many cases did the MSC overturn when it said sec8 doesnt require sec4 ?

how many cases had to be retried?

 

anyone have any numbers?

 

how many mmma patients have been brought up on marijuana manf/dist charges since 2008? are there any numbers?

We had that ruling long ago from the COA and we were happy to here it we thought that we were going to be able to use it in court but that has not happen as of yet but we think it will now that we have Lawyers that are helping us

[t-pain]

i think a lot of people missed the point.

 

coa only said p2p SALES are illegal.

p2p transfers , still legal.

[CaveatLector]

i think a lot of people missed the point.

 

coa only said p2p SALES are illegal.

p2p transfers , still legal.

COA ruled p2p remuneration illegal. They didn't rule on p2p w/o remuneration because it wasn't an issue before them. That doesn't make it legal.

[Juan Roberto]

Voted: Yes. I'm just being a bloody, full-blown-idiot optimist.

[t-pain]

That doesn't make it legal.

 

yeah, the act makes transfers legal.

 

actually, the CoA in mcqueens opinion did say it allowed transfers and delivery.

 

The “medical use” of marijuana, as defined by the MMMA, allows for the

“delivery” and “transfer” of marijuana, but not the “sale” of marijuana. MCL 333.26423(e).

 

transfers = legal all day long , anyone who says otherwise hasnt been paying attention.

Edited December 5, 2012 by t-pain

[CaveatLector]

yeah, the act makes transfers legal.

 

actually, the CoA in mcqueens opinion did say it allowed transfers and delivery.

 

 

 

transfers = legal all day long , anyone who says otherwise hasnt been paying attention.

Transfers don't happen in a vacuum. Whether a transfer is legal depends on the parties. Saying transfers are legal is kind of like saying alcohol sales are legal. Yeah, if DONE legally.

[t-pain]

then we agree. finally.

[cristinew]

Nothing is legal there are protections from arrest,,,,,, It does not say cannabis is Legal anywhere in this law don't make that up,

 

transfers have protections from arrest stated in the law

 

b) A primary caregiver who has been issued and possesses a registry identification card shall not be subject to arrest, prosecution, or penalty in any manner, or denied any right or privilege, including but not limited to civil penalty or disciplinary action by a business or occupational or professional licensing board or bureau, for assisting a qualifying patient to whom he or she is connected through the department's registration process

 

Not connected you can be arrested and 100s have been arrested ,,,

 

Secton 6 D

a primary caregiver may assist no more than 5 qualifying patients with their medical use of marihuana.

 

assist more than 5 you will be arrested 100s already have,

 

If you think the supreme court will not read the above law your just a dreamer,

Edited December 5, 2012 by cristinew

[cristinew]

CoA in mcqueens opinion did say it allowed transfers and delivery,,,,,,, Yes for a caregiver to his patient connected thew the registry,, anything else is subject to arrest and 100s have been , and more to come,,

[peanutbutter]

Nothing is legal there are protections from arrest,,,,,, It does not say cannabis is Legal anywhere in this law don't make that up,

 

That kind of statement is a joke.

 

Vicodin is a felony. Protections from application of the PHC is allowed under strict legal guidelines. A doctors prescription provides a loophole to avoid prosecution.

 

Anyone that has a prescription for Vicodin is lucky if the state doesn't arrest them anyway.

 

The exact same statement can be made for ANY controlled substance.

Edited December 5, 2012 by peanutbutter

[cristinew]

That kind of statement is a joke.

 

 

NO that is a fact that you Ignore ,,

 

 

Ok PB can you sell your pills to anyone?? Nope

Edited December 5, 2012 by cristinew

[peanutbutter]

Transfers don't happen in a vacuum. Whether a transfer is legal depends on the parties. Saying transfers are legal is kind of like saying alcohol sales are legal. Yeah, if DONE legally.

 

When that kind of statement is made (like marijuana isn't really legal. Patients just have a loophole to avoid the PHC) There is a attempt to brand all mmj patients as criminals running a scam.

 

This black painting could be used against every other controlled substance. It isn't because there isn't anyone with an agenda against any other substance.

[peanutbutter]

Accepting the statement at face value aids the smear campaign against patients and caregivers in Michigan. Aids the smear campaign emanating from the office of the AG.

 

Who wants to help the AG to smear us?

[cristinew]

Its funny how people make up things that are not in the law,,, say its law ,, encourage people to sell they get busted,, and they don't even care,, they keep pushing an agenda, knowing that it will harm people..

[cristinew]

mislead people and say,,,,, sales are legal some dummy will believe it and do it and get busted ,,

[cristinew]

remember that guy attacked in Clinton township he believed sales to anyone was legal he listened to people on this board,, and got busted

 

7 felonies because they took false legal advice from here,

[peanutbutter]

remember that guy attacked in Clinton township he believed sales to anyone was legal he listened to people on this board,, and got busted

 

7 felonies because they took false legal advice from here,

 

Bob Redden

 

Just because someone got arrested does NOT mean they were not following the law.