dont go to cali!!

[Grow Thread]

I can bring up to a half lb from CA at a time legally, no problems yet.

 

ever see the movie "Blow" with Johnny Depp?

 

don't wanna spoil it for you................. but it doesn't end well.

[+Silverblue]

half lb from San Diego? NO WAY. I lived there, that place is crawling with paranoid, aggressive LEO. I can't imagine how you manage that.

 

Sb

[CaliBud Man]

ever see the movie "Blow" with Johnny Depp?

 

don't wanna spoil it for you................. but it doesn't end well.

 

the michigan law plainly states my legallity check it your self

 

(j) A registry identification card, or its equivalent, that is issued under the laws of another state, district, territory, commonwealth, or insular possession of the United States that allows the medical use of marihuana by a visiting qualifying patient, or to allow a person to assist with a visiting qualifying patient's medical use of marihuana, shall have the same force and effect as a registry identification card issued by the department.

 

he was illegally transporting cocaine from another country

I am legally transporting medical cannabis form one legal state to another. I have already done it, and been stopped and checked for my card and recomendation at limburt field, and continued on to Michigan. The truth is in the eye of the beholder. Are you legal now in califorina? and Michigan? I am. you sound like a hater, I don't hate on you bud, whats up with that?

[CaliBud Man]

half lb from San Diego? NO WAY. I lived there, that place is crawling with paranoid, aggressive LEO. I can't imagine how you manage that.

 

Sb

 

I guess your not up with the current laws there now bud. I walk the streets and medicate anywhere you can smoke, right downtown, and yes It is legal for me to posess a half lb at all times, check the prop215.420 in San Diego County. Every county has its own laws, of course you know that right? Thanks for your input though.

[DLD420]

You may be legal to have a 1/2 LB in Cali but unless you are a caregiver with 5 patients you are illegal in Mich once you land here. Says we honor your card but you follow our rules, the law says you are a visiting qualifying patient and as such our rules are in play, and unfortunately 2 1/2 Oz's is it.

[CaliBud Man]

You may be legal to have a 1/2 LB in Cali but unless you are a caregiver with 5 patients you are illegal in Mich once you land here. Says we honor your card but you follow our rules, the law says you are a visiting qualifying patient and as such our rules are in play, and unfortunately 2 1/2 Oz's is it.

 

I voted here in 2008 to so that would make it our laws right? I was born and raise in Michigan just so you know bud. I am a resident here in michigan and in Califorina bud and I am legal in both states. My wife is a full time resident to michigan/ new caregiver/ card holder, she meets me at the airport evertime what now? Anything else?

[Skolar Steve]

MMMph, again this comes up, it is up to each dispensary owner in California if they want to accept your Michigan card or not, most of the Not Legal ones, the ones that are not non profit will not let you in. I have been 3 times now and have not had any problems with my Michigan card in California, if you know how to talk to people and also make sure you have your actual doctors recommendation with you. They do not care about a card from the state due to the fact that California is not issuing cards but each doctors office issues their own cards not the state like Michigan. Again if you are going to cali you can take meds with you, I have talked to TSA as well as the Wayne County Sheriff, as long as you use common sense and package it in a air tight baggie like a smelly proof bag, put it in your carry on just like any other medication and DO NOT OPEN IT until you are in your place in Cali. The county sheriff at DTW said as long as you are going to another MMJ Medical state there is no problem here in Michigan. When in Clai talk to the people at the dispensary and let them know your story, have your actual paper work not just your card, if you cannot get into one try another and remember they have to protect themselves, they are a dime a dozen out there and like I said I have not had a problem out there yet. Also I have been to Montana and Colorado, Montana is caregiver based like us here, and Colorado is a Constitutional State Law so it only covers LEGAL STATE RESIDENTS OF COLORADO but the law in Colorado also states that the cannabis cannot be sold for any other reason but medical, so when I was there i could not buy from the dispensary but I did stand there and have another customer there get it for me and hand it to me, also I got to trade with the owner of the shop. Its all about knowing how to talk to people, in the eyes of everyone this is a PRIVILEGED and we need to treat it like that and not demand that this is our right even though we know it is our right. Peace be with you all, Let me know if IO can shed any more light on this for you. I goto Cali several times a year as well as other West Coast States.

 

 

Steve

MOCC

www.THC4U.com

[Skolar Steve]

I voted here in 2008 to so that would make it our laws right? I was born and raise in Michigan just so you know bud. I am a resident here in michigan and in Califorina bud and I am legal in both states. My wife is a full time resident to michigan/ new caregiver/ card holder, she meets me at the airport evertime what now? Anything else?

 

By law you cannot be a legal resident of 2 states, if you have more than one drivers license you are in the wrong, one is not valid. I went thru this while living in Florida with my Michigan DL.

[Grow Thread]

By law you cannot be a legal resident of 2 states, if you have more than one drivers license you are in the wrong, one is not valid. I went thru this while living in Florida with my Michigan DL.

 

kudos to you for bringing that up. very VERY correct.

[DLD420]

I am from san diego CA, and I am Here in Michigan now visiting. I brought medical marijuana on the plane in my carry on it went thru scanners and all I had NO problems. I do know for sure that CA WILL NOT HONOR MICHIGAN MEDICAL MARIJUANA CARDS. But We are making it completely legal in NOVEMBER! I can bring up to a half lb from CA at a time legally, no problems yet. DO not inquire! THE STREETS ARE WATCHING, IT HAS BEEN DONE

Not sure I can see where you say in this post you are a resident in Cali and here in Michigan (which we all know now is illegal right?). You come on here and act like because you say it's true it is, sorry bud we don't play that game, and no I don't work I'm disabled and retired, got a problem with that also? Who were you trying to help with anything you have said in this post? Anyway have a nice visit bud and enjoy your flight back home.

[rockinlespaul]

A commercial drivers license from the state you reside in maybe. That DOES NOT mean you have identification in more than one state. You MUST reside in the state you are issued a license/identification in and since it's IMPOSSIBLE to reside in two different states at the same time, I guess that means your just another joe blow blowin' smoke....

[bobandtorey]

According to a recent poll, Californians are open to the legalization of marijuana. However, support is soft, with 49 percent of voters favoring the legislation and 41 percent opposing it. Ten percent of voters were uncertain about whether or not to support or oppose the measure. The poll also indicated that 42 percent of voters believe that legalizing marijuana would generate more than one billion dollars a year in additional revenue for state and local governments. The other 38 percent, however, believe that these estimates are "wildly exaggerated" and that state and local governments would not benefit significantly in the long run.

 

Voters were shaky in regards to their perception on the social consequences of pot legalization. When asked whether or not they thought legalizing marijuana usage for people 21 years and older would worsen social problems such as increased crime and marijuana use, 46 percent of respondents answered yes, 48 percent answered no and 7 percent were unsure.

 

The May 19-26 poll <A href="http://blogs.laweekly.com/ladaily/PDF/USC%3ALATimes%20Poll.pdf">[PDF], conducted as a joint effort between USC and the Los Angeles Times, surveyed 1506 registered voters.

 

Click here for more information on the full legalization of marijuana in California

 

 

[dlovas]

Interesting. I wonder what Vegas will do?

Next sky trip I will take will be in THE BIG SKY STATE...lol...

[iwombat]

In case you missed this in a recent 'patient issues' thread:

 

Here are some recent articles about Airports tolerating Medical Marijuana transport.

I regularly travel from CA to MI. From the articles it seems like I should

be able to bring up to 8 oz in checked or carry-on baggage when I travel back and forth.

 

They also seem to indicate that between origin and destination, your luggage

is not in federal jurisdiction, so even if they are layovers in non-tolerant

places, your luggage is never actually in that state, rather it is in-transit

in care of the airline.

 

Does anyone have experience with this new attitude?

 

-iWombat

 

 

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http://www.safeacces...cle.php?id=5823

 

Medical marijuana patients can travel with pot from SFO, other Bay Area airports

by Mike Rosenberg, San Mateo County Times

October 22nd, 2009

 

Considering the haziness surrounding medical marijuana laws, it may be surprising that some of the most uptight places in the Bay Area — local airports — are also some of the most laid back when it comes to medical pot patients.

 

San Francisco police, who patrol San Francisco International Airport, say they allow card-holding medical marijuana patients to carry up to 8 ounces of dried cannabis when traveling. The SFO policy follows the guidelines police use within the city of San Francisco, said Sgt. Wilfred Williams.

 

Then-San Francisco police Chief Heather Fong enacted the policy in November 2008 through a three-page bulletin to officers. It instructs officers to leave medical marijuana patients and their drugs alone if they are using the marijuana for medical purposes and not for criminal activity.

 

And when it comes to air travel, local police — not airport officials or federal authorities — determine which passengers can fly with medical pot.

 

Transportation Security Administration spokeswoman Suzanne Trevino said airport security officers are trained to check for dangerous items such as explosives when screening departing passengers, their carry-on bags and checked luggage.

 

TSA officers sometimes find items such as drugs and child pornography, however, and turn them over to local law enforcement, which decides what to do with the items and the passenger, Trevino said. If the local police force allows the passenger to keep their medical marijuana, the TSA would not stop them from traveling with the drug, she said.

 

Likewise, SFO spokesman Mike McCarron said officials at the transportation hub have nothing to do with enforcement of medical marijuana laws at the airport.

 

At Mineta San Jose International Airport, enforcement of medical marijuana laws is left to San Jose police, said airport spokesman David Vossbrink.

 

San Jose police Sgt. Ronnie Lopez said they also do not arrest or cite passengers with medical marijuana at the airport or seize their drugs. They do, however, write a report and send it to federal authorities, who determine whether to file charges, he said.

 

In years past, that may have posed a problem to medical marijuana travelers, but the Justice Department this week told its U.S. attorneys to back off prosecuting medical marijuana users who comply with state law.

 

In the East Bay, the Alameda County Sherriff's Office enacted a specific policy last year that allows medical marijuana users to travel from Oakland International Airport with the drug. As at SFO, a qualified patient or primary caregiver as defined by California law can carry up to 8 ounces during travel out of Oakland.

 

Of course, just because passengers are allowed to take their marijuana out of the Bay Area does not give them full immunity from prosecution, as more than 30 states ban medical marijuana. If a Bay Area traveler lands in a place where the drug is illegal, they could be prosecuted by state authorities.

 

Alameda County deputies notify passengers flying out of Oakland that they could be violating the law if they land in one of the many states that ban medical marijuana. But they have never called ahead to notify police on the other end.

 

Despite the policies, many patients are hesitant to travel out of local airports with their medical marijuana, said Nathan Sands, vice president of the Compassionate Coalition, a Fairfield-based nonprofit medical pot advocacy group. Airports have gained a reputation, particularly following the Sept. 11 attacks, for confiscating normally legal items, such as liquids, at TSA security gates.

 

"I think a lot of patients have been fearful of traveling through airports with medical marijuana because of the federal involvement," Sands said. "And you don't want to be hassled at the airports."

 

And although patients rely on their marijuana like they do any other medication, it may be intimidating for a traveler flying to a state where the drug is banned, Sands said.

 

"It'd be hard to expect the law enforcement there to be sympathetic," he said.

 

Kris Hermes, spokesman for the Oakland-based advocacy group Americans for Safe Access, argued a national policy would allow pot patients to avoid the patchwork of individual airport rules.

 

"It's clearly a good thing that airports such as Oakland and SFO allow patients to be able to travel with their medicine. That's a positive policy," Hermes said. "Some patients cannot be without their medicine for more than a few hours."

 

 

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http://www.alternet.org/story/143345/

 

Got Pot? It's Legal to Take It on the Plane in Oakland

 

Oakland International Airport may be the nation's only airport with a specific policy letting users of medical marijuana travel with the drug.

October 19, 2009 |

 

Oakland International Airport may be the nation's only airport with a specific policy letting users of medical marijuana travel with the drug.

 

The policy is spelled out in a three-page document quietly enacted last year by the Alameda County Sheriff's Office. It states that if deputies determine someone is a qualified patient or primary caregiver as defined by California law and has eight ounces or less of the drug, he or she can keep it and board the plane.

 

Deputies warn the pot-carrying passengers that they may be committing a felony upon arrival when they set foot in a jurisdiction where medical marijuana is not recognized. But they say they don't call ahead to alert authorities on the other end.

 

"We never have. We're certainly within our right to, but we never have," said Sgt. J.D. Nelson, a spokesman for the sheriff's office. "Our notification of the passengers is for their own safety and well-being."

 

California voters approved medical marijuana use in 1996, while federal law still bans all possession and use.

 

But Oakland attorney Robert Raich notes the Code of Federal Regulations says a prohibition on operating a civil aircraft with knowledge that there is marijuana aboard doesn't apply to carrying marijuana that's "authorized by or under any Federal or State statute."

 

The federal Transportation Security Administration does the screening and when marijuana — or any suspected contraband — is found, the sheriff's deputies are summoned.

 

Low Profile

 

Oakland's airport policy was enacted in February 2008, but Raich said he didn't want to publicize it until recently lest the Bush administration change federal regulations, or lest it become an issue in Obama administration drug officials' confirmation hearings.

 

"All other airports in medical cannabis states should have similar policies but they don't," he said, adding that he hears San Francisco International and Los Angeles International airports are relatively kind to medical marijuana users while airports in Burbank, Ontario and San Diego are not.

 

Raich, who has seen two of his medical marijuana cases argued before the U.S. Supreme Court and has taught Oakland Police cadets about medical marijuana issues, said medical marijuana users generally didn't have much trouble when Oakland Police used to patrol inside the airport terminals. But that changed when the Alameda County Sheriff's Office took over in mid-2007. That summer TSA screeners referred to deputies a traveling medical-marijuana user from Washington state.

 

"The sheriff's deputies so harassed this person, it was heart-wrenching," Raich said. "They took his medicine, they broke his bong, they took his edibles. They were threatening him."

 

'Pinball machine'

 

Raich said he found that the sheriff's office was unwilling to change its policy. So he consulted various officials including those at the Port of Oakland, which owns and operates the airport.

 

"I felt like a ball in a pinball machine," he said. "I felt like I'd talked to every single employee at the port and they all seemed sympathetic but they all told me the same thing: 'That's not our policy "... that's the sheriff doing that on his own.' "

 

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http://www.usatoday....=620000291.blog

 

Medical marijuana allowed at SFO, Bay Area airports

 

Medical marijuana patients can now travel with the drug through San Francisco International Airport, as well as other Bay Area airports, the Mercury News reports.

 

Passengers who are card-carrying patients are permitted to carry up to 8 ounces of dried cannabis, in compliance with San Francisco city policy. It is up to the city's police, who patrol the airport, not the airport officials or TSA officers, to decide if a passenger can travel with the pot.

 

In the past, police at SFO and San Jose airport were told to make the call on whether the passenger could travel with the drugs, but a report was likely filed to federal authorities who then decided whether or not to follow up with charges. But this week that all changed as the Department of Justice directed US attorneys to leave passengers alone traveling with the drug if they are in compliance with state laws.

 

Nathan Sands, vice president of the Compassionate Coalition, a Fairfield-based nonprofit medical pot advocacy group, told the Mercury News that despite technically being able to fly with medical marijuana, passengers are often too fearful of airport officials and police to bother traveling with the drug.

 

"It's clearly a good thing that airports such as Oakland and SFO allow patients to be able to travel with their medicine. That's a positive policy," Kris Hermes, spokesman for the Oakland-based advocacy group Americans for Safe Access, told the Mercury News. "Some patients cannot be without their medicine for more than a few hours."

 

Of course, patients using the drug should consult the state laws of their final destination. More than 30 states do not allow the use of medical marijuana, and if a Bay Area traveler transports the drug to one of those states--despite being able to leave the area with it--they could be prosecuted by local officials upon landing. --Rebecca Heslin

[StonedPlanet]

I had a huge post written out, but decided to put it all into one simple sentence..

 

I seriously doubt that ANY states will work together on this until things get changed on a FEDERAL level.

[mattleaym]

I recently took a trip to California and found out that they do not recognize out of state medical cards.... Which then made it difficult for me to obtain my medicine!!! Would of thought the model state for medical use would be compassionate to all, not just its Californians.... Do they think my pain stays at home when I travel? Because of this I don't think I will Travel back to the state.

 

To be honest you dont know what your talking about. I have my Michigan card and its excepted by police and dispensaries alike. I travel to Fort Bragg alot and i travel with my medical marijuana supplies on a plane. Not every dispensary will accept it but most will. Iv had run in with police and everything is legit. I don't know where you get off saying this stuff but its not true. California does recognize Michigan medical law.

[purklize]

You're crazy to fly back and forth with half a pound from CA to MI. You know who the TSA guys work for, right? They're federal agents and they will bust your a$$ like there's no tomorrow.

[LongHairBri]

You're crazy to fly back and forth with half a pound from CA to MI. You know who the TSA guys work for, right? They're federal agents and they will bust your a$$ like there's no tomorrow.

bro, are you new? the TSA will reconize and honor a mmj card. you can even board with meds and a live plant in your carry-on

[+EdwardGlen]

[Iceman081]

You're crazy to fly back and forth with half a pound from CA to MI. You know who the TSA guys work for, right? They're federal agents and they will bust your a$$ like there's no tomorrow.

 

TSA turns everything over to local leo's so if your in a MMJ state it's not a problem, and if your traveling from one MMJ state to another it doesn't seem to be a problem either. One patient on here posted that they searched his carry-on passed right by the OZ and asked if he would like them to dispose of his liquid drink in his carry on. TSA is way more worried about their real job (keeping are airways safe) then harassing MMJ patients. If only other goverment agencies would follow the same course it would be alot less of taxpayers money wasted!!!

[MightyMightyMezz]

TSA turns everything over to local leo's so if your in a MMJ state it's not a problem, and if your traveling from one MMJ state to another it doesn't seem to be a problem either. One patient on here posted that they searched his carry-on passed right by the OZ and asked if he would like them to dispose of his liquid drink in his carry on. TSA is way more worried about their real job (keeping are airways safe) then harassing MMJ patients. If only other goverment agencies would follow the same course it would be alot less of taxpayers money wasted!!!

 

From what I've been seeing their job is the groping of young and old Americans alike and forcing them into radioactive scanners. I don't think I'll be flying anymore so I guess worrying about whether they will bust me for meds is moot.

[purklize]

bro, are you new? the TSA will reconize and honor a mmj card. you can even board with meds and a live plant in your carry-on

 

I stand corrected. I'm a bit embarrassed as I was so strong in my earlier assertions - appears they've changed their policy in the last year or two? Either way this is AWESOME news. I am so happy to hear this. :thumbsu: