t-pain Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 collecting all editorials in michigan newspapers that are against legalization. http://www.thetimesherald.com/story/opinion/editorials/2017/11/22/pot-petition-dangerous-michigan/107946936/ "teh" times herald editorial board apparently does not possess a spell checker. seriously , this is an excellent piece of refer madness. we're back in the 1920s!. Quote Pot petition dangerous for Michigan Editorial Board Published 4:50 p.m. ET Nov. 22, 2017 The thing Michigan legislators need to keep in mind is that the people circulating petitions to legalize recreational marijuana use might be under the influence of that substance. The Coalition to Regulate Marijuana Like Alcohol appears to have enough petition signatures. It seeks an indirectly initiated state statute, which is one of three ways citizens can use petitions to change state law. With an indirectly initiated state statute has enough signatures, it is presented to the Legislature, which has 40 days to enact the requested law. If the Legislature doesn’t act, the issue would go onto the next general election ballot. Most observers don’t expect teh Republican-controlled Legislature to comply with the petition. It would not play well during the next Republican primary to be the state representative or senator who voted to legalize pot. That means it will likely end up on the November 2018 ballot. It will probably pass. Gallup’s latest national poll says that about two thirds of adults favor legalizing marijuana use. Michigan voters probably agree. Before they vote for legal pot, though, they need to consider two things: First, users wrote Michigan’s medical marijuana law as an indirectly initiated state statute. It was so poorly crafted it has been nothing but chaos for most of a decade. After a series of half-hearted fixes to something they obviously never wanted, state officials are finally bringing the medical marijuana mess under control with rules, licenses and fees that go into effect next month. Lawmakers have to assume this recreational marijuana initiative is just as addled as the medical one. Do they really want to legalize pot without some sort of adult supervision? It is too frightening to contemplate. What the petitioners propose is that anyone over the age of 21 could possess 1.5 ounces of marijuana and could grow up to 12 plants. That’s a million and a half pot plants in St. Clair County. There would be a 10 percent tax on marijuana. How the state would tax the 12 or 24 plants in everyone’s back yards is anyone’s guess. And as other states that have legalized marijuana are learning, people who grow and sell marijuana don’t usually feel compelled to neat and tidy ledgers and pay their taxes. Second, and this fact is something none of us can ignore. Advocates who call marijuana harmless are lying to themselves and to us. We’re not talking about health affects — unless you include gunshot wounds, dead bodies in ditches, torture, beatings and kidnappings as the unhealthy side effects of the marijuana trade. Two people are dead in Sanilac County’s Greenleaf Township and several people in the St. Clair County jail face long prison time after two recent disputes over who should profit from medical marijuana. Legal marijuana is getting people killed here. Don’t vote for more. Easy E and mishigami bear 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restorium2 Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 Reminds me of 'Make America great Again' and 'Law and Order Society'. We have some seriously mentally challenged folks we vote with. Stupid is as stupid does .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easy E Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 (edited) Thanks for sharing this. Wow refer madness is right lol. So bad no writer would put their name on it. Just "Editorial Board" lol. Whoever wrote that clearly does not understand the laws and the new proposed law as written. That is of course assuming the writer did in fact read the laws. I'm guessing they pieced together hear say and other poorly written news pieces to form their understanding. 1.5oz... wrong it's 2.5oz. Tax on home cultivation... nope only taxes business operations. 12 or 24 plants... nope just 12 per residence as the language clearly states. Even if you face plant the keyboard every time you try to read legal language, it's easy enough to read the FAQ on mi regulates website: https://www.regulatemi.org/about/faq/ The good news is according to polls like the one sited in the "article" no one cares about their outdated opinion lol. Edited November 27, 2017 by Easy E bobandtorey and mishigami bear 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t-pain Posted November 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 they were making the point that homegrows will not be taxed. which is true. just like home brewed beer is not taxed, since it cannot be sold either. so the editorial board is taking the premise that "legal marijuana will be taxed" and taking it to mean "all marijuana will be taxed". its a simple theory for simple minds, meant to provoke fear uncertainty and doubt. its interesting that he brings up violence related to marijuana being illegal, but does not finish the thought that no one shoots each other over some miller lite. because you can go in any store and buy miller lite. when marijuana is legal like alcohol there will be no one shooting each other over it, the prices will drop, and you can go buy it like you can buy miller lite. mishigami bear and Easy E 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easy E Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 6 hours ago, t-pain said: they were making the point that homegrows will not be taxed. which is true. just like home brewed beer is not taxed, since it cannot be sold either. so the editorial board is taking the premise that "legal marijuana will be taxed" and taking it to mean "all marijuana will be taxed". its a simple theory for simple minds, meant to provoke fear uncertainty and doubt. its interesting that he brings up violence related to marijuana being illegal, but does not finish the thought that no one shoots each other over some miller lite. because you can go in any store and buy miller lite. when marijuana is legal like alcohol there will be no one shooting each other over it, the prices will drop, and you can go buy it like you can buy miller lite. I agree completely. It's funny how many aspects of that article contradict reality lol. Hope to see more of these articles, they make me laugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shishka Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 13 hours ago, t-pain said: First, users wrote Michigan’s medical marijuana law as an indirectly initiated state statute. It was so poorly crafted it has been nothing but chaos for most of a decade. After a series of half-hearted fixes to something they obviously never wanted, state officials are finally bringing the medical marijuana mess under control with rules, licenses and fees that go into effect next month. Hard to argue that. Easy E 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishigami bear Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 15 hours ago, t-pain said: Do they really want to legalize pot without some sort of adult supervision? It is too frightening to contemplate. Someone at the Times Herald is having the vapors. Reefer madness indeed. Easy E 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmishRnot4ganja Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 (edited) 15 hours ago, mishigami bear said: Someone at the Times Herald is having the vapors. Reefer madness indeed. You are so right. The writers of this article, and people of their ilk, are the ones who come across as drug addled paranoiacs. Maybe what these people need is to either try the stuff or shut up about something of which they have little knowledge. Edited November 28, 2017 by AmishRnot4ganja mishigami bear, blackhorse and Easy E 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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