JBINDICA Posted February 14, 2015 Report Share Posted February 14, 2015 wondering if when Colorado,legalize marijuana did they offer anything to law enforcment for loss of revenue on marijuana mabee we pitch the same plan here in mi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmishRnot4ganja Posted February 14, 2015 Report Share Posted February 14, 2015 When Colorado legalized marijuana they lost revenue from persecuting harmless users, but they also lost the expense of that activity so it is kind of a draw I would think. One thing they lost that may be hard to replace is the gratification that law enforcement gains from picking on a relatively harmless class of people. I don't know how they can replace that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indigro Posted February 14, 2015 Report Share Posted February 14, 2015 I almost dont want to say this out loud, but other places do it intentionaly... U create a two tiered class of citizens... those that r allowed to grow & sell for profit, and everyone else. Those allowed go through a police check & part of lic fees & taxation goes to their budget, plus they can still police that group for infractions/prosecution. This is a smaller group of citizens that can be managed. The second class of people get lesser rights... they can purchase, possess & consume, but cannot grow or sell. These folks are subject to tighter limitations & can still be fully prosecuted under the existing policies & procedures. It is the bulk of the people, and still offers good pool of revenue streams. Also, because it still is illegal & controlled, and wont address all of the market needs (such as variety & quality), plus moderated to the existing market prices... it basically mandates the contiuation of black & grey market dealings. This means a task force, investigations, warrants, arraigments, etc, etc, etc... continued job security. Also, this means a continued supply of prison inmates (esp from the sub class of relatively poor people that can not financially deal w such a legal onslaught)... such that the state can hopefully meet their minimum guaranteed occupancy rates, as agreed to within existing business contracts with private corporations that operate on a profit motive to incarcerate varying classes of citizens. In addition to the above, they can certainly promise additional enforcement of other existing statutes to offset any loss in mj inmates. Or to support the criminalization of other activities targeting certain prime classes of citizens... those most vulnerable to the justice system. All in all, we can have our cake & eat it too. Dont worry, we can work something out... how about coming out to the club next weekend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indigro Posted February 14, 2015 Report Share Posted February 14, 2015 Oh... and we'll give u two more beat downs of elderly brown people per year... no investigations, no media, no nuthin... just as a bonus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chauncy Gardner Posted February 14, 2015 Report Share Posted February 14, 2015 If marijuana is, as Obama says (and the medical profession agrees), no more harmful than beer, why shouldn't citizens be allowed to grow marijuana much as they are now allowed to brew beer? If marijuana gets legalized on a grand scale, I think it would be hard for legislators to deny citizens the right to grow their own. Quadcarl, Hydraulic Jack and medmanmike 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restorium2 Posted February 14, 2015 Report Share Posted February 14, 2015 If marijuana is, as Obama says (and the medical profession agrees), no more harmful than beer, why shouldn't citizens be allowed to grow marijuana much as they are now allowed to brew beer? If marijuana gets legalized on a grand scale, I think it would be hard for legislators to deny citizens the right to grow their own. They use the tax money to do this is a very harsh way... prison Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quadcarl Posted February 14, 2015 Report Share Posted February 14, 2015 How many home brewers are getting their doors kicked in these days? Didn't think so How many people buying home brew equipment are worried about prison time over tax evasion? Didn't think so trichcycler 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chauncy Gardner Posted February 14, 2015 Report Share Posted February 14, 2015 When Colorado legalized marijuana they lost revenue from persecuting harmless users, but they also lost the expense of that activity so it is kind of a draw I would think. One thing they lost that may be hard to replace is the gratification that law enforcement gains from picking on a relatively harmless class of people. I don't know how they can replace that. Perhaps law enforcement could have "training" exercises where in they get to beat a life like dummy senseless while yelling derogatory remarks like "Dirty, low-life, hippy scum!" , etc. and judges get to lecture actors (who are schooled to be appropriately condescending) about the (fictitious) dangers of marijuana. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quadcarl Posted February 14, 2015 Report Share Posted February 14, 2015 Well zap, I would agree any of them actions would draw suspicion and perhaps charges. An ad on Craigslist would require a liquor license, as would a retail outlet. A home brewing collective would most likely have a hard time finding customers without branding or advertising, and milwaukees best is pretty cheap, be hard to make a good inexpensive beer to compete with that market. Transportation depends on packaging and load placement maybe? Cash only means you're probably a criminal and not paying taxes would obviously be illegal. Apart from the cash only scenario I bet the family dog lives if the door DOES get kicked in, instead of knocked on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quadcarl Posted February 14, 2015 Report Share Posted February 14, 2015 I would guess none of those scenarios happen that often in our country because you can go to the store or wherever you choose to buy any number of varieties of beer for what must be reasonable prices. Therefore a profitable underground market just isn't there. Yes I've seen the TV series moonshiners Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chauncy Gardner Posted February 14, 2015 Report Share Posted February 14, 2015 I would guess none of those scenarios happen that often in our country because you can go to the store or wherever you choose to buy any number of varieties of beer for what must be reasonable prices. Therefore a profitable underground market just isn't there. Yes I've seen the TV series moonshiners Which, it must be noted, is staged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quadcarl Posted February 14, 2015 Report Share Posted February 14, 2015 Really? So Amish mafia and storage wars are fake shows too! Hahahaha, being sarcastic there Happy trails Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chauncy Gardner Posted February 14, 2015 Report Share Posted February 14, 2015 (edited) Really? So Amish mafia and storage wars are fake shows too! Hahahaha, being sarcastic there Happy trails Not fake, but staged. There is an element of truth in all those shows, but reality has been embellished and the truth stretched for the entertainment value. Maybe I am taking all of this a bit too seriously. Edited February 14, 2015 by Chauncy Gardner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quadcarl Posted February 14, 2015 Report Share Posted February 14, 2015 Maybe I am taking all of this a bit too seriously. Nah, entertaining remember, lol, but good catch fake was the wrong word there. Should've re read over before hitting post:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlander Posted February 15, 2015 Report Share Posted February 15, 2015 Well zap, I would agree any of them actions would draw suspicion and perhaps charges. An ad on Craigslist would require a liquor license, as would a retail outlet. A home brewing collective would most likely have a hard time finding customers without branding or advertising, and milwaukees best is pretty cheap, be hard to make a good inexpensive beer to compete with that market. Transportation depends on packaging and load placement maybe? Cash only means you're probably a criminal and not paying taxes would obviously be illegal. Apart from the cash only scenario I bet the family dog lives if the door DOES get kicked in, instead of knocked on A big difference between boutique MJ and boutique liquor is that an unskilled brewer/distiller might produce spirits with methyl alcohol, which might only make you sick if you're lucky or blind you or kill you if you are unlucky. And you really can't tell the difference between ethyl and methyl alcohol based on sight or smell. Anyone with some experience with MMJ can see moldy meds easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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