Cass City Police Seize Home For 5 Clones

[Hempcheff]

doesnt the law have a provision that they have to assume it was for medical use, and prove that the plants werent a reasonable amount to ensure an uninterrupted supply of medicine?

[+budhabit]

Pat Mcdonald is a friend of mine and a member of our club he got raided 1 week before my first raid yes he was over by 7 but in question were seedlings that just popped that day he only had a few mature plants this poor man has already lost his home because it was seized by the Sheriffs dept because of this case has paid out $10000 to an a attorney which resulted accepting plea that gets him 1 year in jail he is goes up for sentencing in June This poor man needs our support because he is the only victim in all this and it is insane. Makes you proud to be an American dont it

[Fight_4_Freedom]

I felt so bad for the guy. Sounds like they had it out for him. John tell him next time he comes back to Bay City the wings are on the house

[CedarSpringsCG]

The question I have is still how can they call a cutting a plant? Was it rooted? I still believe it should be defined. Because seriously a cop gets a pair of scissors and starts cutting he can make as many as he wants. Why is a cutting a plant or am I wrong. I thought that trimmings and roots and stalks don't count towards your counts only live plants and usable marijuana?

Exactly my question. Did it have roots? If not, the cops are wrong. However, if it had roots, he is wrong. Do I think they should seize his house without due process? No way. He is allowed a AD because maybe he sucks at growing and only gets 1/2 oz off each plant, and needs 50 plants for a constant supply just for himself. It is really fishy that he isn't being charged yet they are taking his house. I think they need to convict him of a crime before they seize it. Because unless they can convict him of criminal activity, there wasn't any criminal activity, and therefore he should keep his house.

 

What I don't understand is that there are so many vacant houses around this state, why don't they take some of those. Even in their own county I am sure there are a few homes that are backwards in their mortgage that I am sure the owners would love to give up.

[treehugger]

It is really fishy that he isn't being charged yet they are taking his house. I think they need to convict him of a crime before they seize it. Because unless they can convict him of criminal activity, there wasn't any criminal activity, and therefore he should keep his house.

 

 

It's not fishy, that is how the forfeiture law works, charges don't even have to be filed. Land of the free? lies, all lies...

[+budhabit]

It's not fishy, that is how the forfeiture law works, charges don't even have to be filed. Land of the free? lies, all lies...

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[solabeirtan]

ENOUGH with the doom and gloom. This is just the tip of the iceberg. Kinda like the Spent Nuclear Fuel that is stored all over this once great country of ours. Except that has only been going on for about 50 years now.

 

The forfieture laws started long before that. These are issues left to us by previous representatives of our governments, for us to sort out for them or preferably to them our children and their children.

 

It looks like this would have been a good place to start, however from what I just read this unfortunate person has already retained legal counsel and is into a plea agreement deal.

 

Forfieture Reform

............................................"The financial incentives for states to assist the federal government in forfeitures are also strong. The U.S.

Department of Justice maintains an Asset Forfeiture Fund. Part of the proceeds from the fund is shared with state and local law

enforcement agencies to assist them in fighting the drug war. In 1990, Michigan received almost $3.7 million in cash from this fund. "

_____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

 

Unless their are other circumstances involved there is no way this is legal. He is a medical MJ Patient. How much usable medicine was on hand ?

Edited May 7, 2011 by solabeirtan

[Mememe]

Who is on the hook for the mortgage? Once state officials take possession of a home, who would owe on the mortgage?

[Mememe]

maybe the mortgage companies will help to stamp out the insane forfeiture laws. Seems as if they are getting the short end of the stick too.

[trichcycler]

any update on this poor soul ?

 

also have the police changed their tune at all, and are the compassion clubs in the area up and open?

thanks

[budpuffer]

not long ago someone set up a link to the toys (military stuff) LEO was buying with this money..my county had 7 pages....makes me think their worried we might get sick of them doing this shitisial...lol...bp

[trichcycler]

with the laws of plant counts clearly spelled out I suspect over growers make calculated decisions before they choose to break laws. The real question is how they new he had 5 clones over count in the first place.  I still don't believe people should lose their homes or be in jail for a plant. As long as we have registrants writing their own rules in the system these crimes against patients will continue to be fueled by the lawlessness. I suggest read the rules and fear internet advice. Like the advice that tells us that clones and seedling are not plants, or that 10+2 = 7.

[trichcycler]

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Edited October 5, 2014 by grassmatch

[slipstar059]

Last I checked 4271 defines any plant under 12x12 a seedling, not countable against the 12 plant count limit.

[slipstar059]

Man that takes out a whole possible industry in itself. I haven't looked at it in about a month, they must really be whittling it down. Rhode Island put in bylaws stating 12"x12" was considered a branch from plants. Nobody has tried tackling this here?

[garyfisher]

a square footage law seems much more regulatory and easy to measure; makes sense.

[slipstar059]

I agree a plant can only take in so much light, square footage can only be taken so far. It's a great idea.

The idea that a person can lose his home without conviction is as insane as police confiscating large amounts of money on the highway with no conviction. Even more so.

Edited October 14, 2014 by slipstar059

[garyfisher]

Everyday we're hustling.... Policing for profit!