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OBAMA ELIGIBILITY COURT CASE…BLOW BY BLOW

By Craig Andresen on January 26, 2012 at 9:25 am in-1.jpg

 

Given the testimony from today’s court case in Georgia, Obama has a lot of explaining to do. His attorney, Jablonski, was a NO SHOW as of course, was Obama.

 

The following is a nutshell account of the proceedings.

 

Promptly at 9am EST, all attorneys involved in the Obama Georgia eligibility case were called to the Judge’s chambers. This was indeed a very interesting beginning to this long awaited and important case.

 

The case revolved around the Natural Born clause of the Constitution and whether or not Obama qualifies under it to serve. More to the point, if found ineligible, Obama’s name would not appear on the 2012 ballot in Georgia.

 

With the small courtroom crowded, several in attendance could be seen fanning themselves with pamphlets as they waited for the return of the attorneys and the appearance of the judge.

 

Obama himself, who had been subpoenaed to appear, of course was nowhere near Georgia. Instead, Obama was on a campaign swing appearing in Las Vegas and in Colorado ignoring the court in Georgia.

 

Over the last several weeks, Obama’s attorney, Michael Jablonski, had attempted several tactics to keep this case from moving forward. He first tried to have it dismissed, then argued that it was irrelevant to Obama. After that, Jablonski argued that a state could not, under the law, determine who would or would not be on a ballot and later, that Obama was simply too busy with the duties of office to appear.

 

After all these arguments were dispatched by the Georgia Court, Jablonski, in desperation, wrote to the Georgia Secretary of State attempting to place Obama above the law and declared that the case was not to he heard and neither he nor his client would participate.

 

 

 

Secretary of State, Brian Kemp, fired back a letter hours later telling Jablonski he was free to abandon the case and not participate but that he would do so at his and his clients peril.

 

Game on.

 

5 minutes.

 

10 minutes.

 

15 minutes with the attorneys in the judge’s chambers.in-2.jpg

 

20 minutes.

 

It appears Jablonski is not in attendance as the attorneys return, all go to the plaintiff table 24 minutes after meeting in the judge’s chambers.

 

Has Obama’s attorney made good on his stated threat not to participate? Is he directly ignoring the court’s subpoena? Is he placing Obama above the law? It seems so. Were you or I subpoenaed to appear in court, would we or our attorney be allowed such action or, non action?

 

Certainly not.

 

Court is called to order.

 

Obama’s birth certificate is entered into evidence.

 

Obama’s father’s place of birth, Kenya East Africa is entered into evidence.

 

Pages 214 and 215 from Obama’s book, “Dreams from My Father” entered into evidence. Highlighted. This is where Obama indicates that, in 1966 or 1967 that his father’s history is mentioned. It states that his father’s passport had been revoked and he was unable to leave Kenya.

 

Immigration Services documents entered into evidence regarding Obama Sr.

 

June 27th, 1962, is the date on those documents. Obama’s father’s status shown as a non citizen of the United States. Documents were gotten through the Freedom of Information Act.

 

Testimony regarding the definition of Natural Born Citizen is given citing Minor vs Happersett opinion from a Supreme Court written opinion from 1875. The attorney points out the difference between “citizen” and “Natural Born Citizen” using charts and copies of the Minor vs Happersett opinion.

 

It is also pointed out that the 14th Amendment does not alter the definition or supersede the meaning of Natural Born. It is pointed out that lower court rulings do not conflict with the Supreme Court opinion nor do they over rule the Supreme Court Minor vs Happersett opinion.

 

The point is, to be a natural born citizen, one must have 2 parents who, at the time of the birth in question, be citizens of the United States. As Obama’s father was not a citizen, the argument is that Obama, constitutionally, is ineligible to serve as President.

 

Judge notes that as Obama nor his attorney is present, action will be taken accordingly.

 

Carl Swinson takes the stand.

 

Testimony is presented that the SOS has agreed to hear this case, laws applicable, and that the DNC of Georgia will be on the ballot and the challenge to it by Swinson.

 

2nd witness, a Mr. Powell, takes the stand and presents testimony regarding documents of challenge to Obama’s appearance on the Georgia ballot and his candidacy.

 

Court records of Obama’s mother and father entered into evidence.

 

Official certificate of nomination of Obama entered into evidence.

 

RNC certificate of nomination entered into evidence.

 

in-3.jpgDNC language does NOT include language stating Obama is Qualified while the RNC document DOES. This shows a direct difference trying to establish that the DNC MAY possibly have known that Obama was not qualified.

 

Jablonski letter to Kemp yesterday entered into evidence showing their desire that these proceedings not take place and that they would not participate.

 

Dreams From My Father entered.

 

Mr. Allen from Tuscon AZ sworn in.

 

Disc received from Immigration and Naturalization Service entered into evidence. This disc contains information regarding the status of Obama’s father received through the Freedom of Information Act.

 

This information states clearly that Obama’s father was NEVER a U.S. Citizen.

 

At this point, the judge takes a recess.

 

The judge returns.

 

David Farrar takes the stand.

 

Evidence showing Obama’s book of records listing his nationality as Indoneasan. Deemed not relevant by the judge.

 

Orly Taitz calls 2nd witness. Mr. Strunk.

 

Enters into evidence a portion of letter received from attorney showing a renewal form from Obama’s mother for her passport listing Obama’s last name something other than Obama.

 

State Licensed PI takes the stand.

 

She was hired to look into Obama’s background and found a Social Security number for him from 1977. Professional opinion given that this number was fraudulent. The number used or attached to Obama in 1977, shows that the true owner of the number was born in the 1890. This shows that the number was originally assigned to someone else who was indeed born in 1890 and should never have been used by Obama.

 

Same SS number came up with addresses in IL, D.C. and MA.court-7.jpg

 

Next witness takes the stand.

 

This witness is an expert in information technology and photo shop. He testifies that the birth certificate Obama provided to the public is layered, multiple layered. This, he testifies, indicates that different parts of the certificate have been lifted from more than one original document.

 

Linda Jordan takes the stand.

 

Document entered regarding SS number assigned to Obama. SS number is not verified under E Verify. It comes back as suspected fraudulent. This is the system by which the Government verifies ones citizenship.

 

Next witness.

 

Mr. Vogt.

 

Expert in document imaging and scanners for 18 years.

 

Mr. Vogt testifies that the birth certificate, posted online by Obama, is suspicious. States white lines around all the type face is caused by “unsharp mask” in Photoshop. Testifies that any document showing this, is considered to be a fraud.

 

States this is a product of layering.

 

Mr. Vogt testifies that a straight scan of an original document would not show such layering.

 

Also testifies that the date stamps shown on Obama documents should not be in exact same place on various documents as they are hand stamped. Obama’s documents are all even, straight and exactly the same indicating they were NOT hand stamped but layered into the document by computer.

 

Next witness, Mr. Sampson a former police officer and former immigration officer specializing in immigration fraud.

 

Ran Obama’s SS number through database and found that the number was issued to Obama in 1977 in the state of Connecticut . Obama never resided in that state. At the time of issue, Obama was living in Hawaii.

 

Serial number on birth certificate is out of sequence with others issued at that hospital. Also certification is different than others and different than twins born 24 hours ahead of Obama.

 

Mr. Sampson also states that portion of documents regarding Mr. Soetoro, who adopted Obama have been redacted which is highly unusual with regards to immigrain-4.jpgtion records.

 

Suggests all records from Social Security, Immigration, Hawaii birth records be made available to see if there are criminal charges to be filed or not. Without them, nothing can be ruled out.

 

Mr. Sampson indicates if Obama is shown not to be a citizen, he should be arrested and deported and until all records are released nobody can know for sure if he is or is not a U.S. Citizen.

 

Taitz shows records for Barry Soetoro aka Barack Obama, showing he resides in Hawaii and in Indonesia at the same time.

 

Taitz takes the stand herself.

 

Testifies that records indicate Obama records have been altered and he is hiding his identity and citizenship.

 

Taitz leaves the stand to make her closing arguments.

 

Taitz states that Obama should be found, because of the evidence presented, ineligible to serve as President.

 

And with that, the judge closes the hearing.

 

What can we take away from this?

 

It’s interesting.

 

Now, all of this has finally been entered OFFICIALLY into court records.

 

One huge question is now more than ever before, unanswered.

 

WHO THE HELL IS THIS GUY?

 

Without his attorney present, Obama’s identity, his Social Security number, his citizenship status, and his past are all OFFICIALLY in question.

 

One thing to which there seems no doubt. He does NOT qualify, under the definition of “Natural Born Citizen” provided by SCOTUS opinions, to be eligible to serve as President.

 

What will the judge decide? That is yet to be known, but it seems nearly impossible to believe, without counter testimony or evidence, because Obama and his attorney chose not to participate, that Obama will be allowed on the Georgia ballot.

 

It also opens the door for such cases pending or to be brought in other states as well.

 

Obama is in it deep and the DNC has some…a LOT…of explaining to do unless they start looking for a new candidate for 2012.

 

 

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You are not assuming people will learn from their mistakes? They never do, denial fits better.

 

 

 

God this makes me so happy. I don't know whats going to happen to him, I really don't care but the fact that this is all out and in the open is just amazing. Everyone can see who put the blinders on in 08

 

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The Constitution does not define the phrase natural-born citizen,

 

Section 1 of Article Two of the United States Constitution sets forth the eligibility requirements for serving as president of the United States:

 

No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

 

This court case is a Bunch of IDIOTS who don't do like Obama

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More Birther bs. You get born in America you are a citizen. Since the constitution does not make the case for both parents being citizens then the point is moot. Xenophobic racists!

 

This comes from a person who is disappointed that Obama did not put a much more progressive agenda int he first two years, but compared to the other guys who are likely to be running against him he is a saint. (sorry guys but I do not think R. Paul has much of a shot)

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More Birther bs. You get born in America you are a citizen. Since the constitution does not make the case for both parents being citizens then the point is moot. Xenophobic racists!

 

This comes from a person who is disappointed that Obama did not put a much more progressive agenda int he first two years, but compared to the other guys who are likely to be running against him he is a saint. (sorry guys but I do not think R. Paul has much of a shot)

 

You realize the question is whether he was born in the USA right? I don't think it is racist to demand an answer to the question. I mean in your opinion would it still be racist if he in fact was not born in the USA?

 

As to his relative saintliness I think his policies dispel that notion. He is very close to Bush on foreign policy. It might be a slightly different flavor of international bellicosity but it is about the same intensity. Here at home we've seen the advancement of the tyrannical Homeland Security agenda against We The People while bankers got bailed out to the tune of trillions.

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What really has me baffled is the social security number discrepancies and the photo shopped birth certificate. If all this is true, then a massive conspiracy has been in place since 1977. This conspiracy would have had to have been set in place in order to assure that Obama would be able to assume Office of President. My question: if the conspirators had the foresight to arrange presidential eligibility way back in 1977, why didn't they just make sure he was born in the USA and avoid all this hassle?

 

A conspiracy of the magnitude implied in this court case would require too many people to be successfully pulled off.

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You realize the question is whether he was born in the USA right? I don't think it is racist to demand an answer to the question. I mean in your opinion would it still be racist if he in fact was not born in the USA?

 

As to his relative saintliness I think his policies dispel that notion. He is very close to Bush on foreign policy. It might be a slightly different flavor of international bellicosity but it is about the same intensity. Here at home we've seen the advancement of the tyrannical Homeland Security agenda against We The People while bankers got bailed out to the tune of trillions.

well said :goodjob:

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What really has me baffled is the social security number discrepancies and the photo shopped birth certificate. If all this is true, then a massive conspiracy has been in place since 1977. This conspiracy would have had to have been set in place in order to assure that Obama would be able to assume Office of President. My question: if the conspirators had the foresight to arrange presidential eligibility way back in 1977, why didn't they just make sure he was born in the USA and avoid all this hassle?

 

A conspiracy of the magnitude implied in this court case would require too many people to be successfully pulled off.

 

Freemasons are blindfolded and made to swear an oath of secrecy at the point of a blade during initiations. Skull&Bones has similar secrecy vows and no doubt so do other secret societies. To say our government is overrun with secret society members would be an understatement. I think you have to ask yourself how many layers does the onion have? It's intrigue upon intrigue. Perhaps a presidential eligibility flap is part of the plan. It could easily be a component of engineered civil unrest and a subsequent crackdown.

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More Birther bs. You get born in America you are a citizen. Since the constitution does not make the case for both parents being citizens then the point is moot. Xenophobic racists!

 

This comes from a person who is disappointed that Obama did not put a much more progressive agenda int he first two years, but compared to the other guys who are likely to be running against him he is a saint. (sorry guys but I do not think R. Paul has much of a shot)

 

Ron Paul has less then 6% support in Florida . Romney is way ahead in early abstentee ballots according to press reports and yes Obamma compared to the others is a Saint . I wanted to vote for Gingrich but when he talks of drug policy with strict enforcement of the Death Penalty it makes me sick . He is saying we should be more restrictive and model under Singapore which has some of the most restrictive and cruel policy in the World .

 

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Penalties in Singapore:

1. Possession/consumption of Cannabis (Marijuana)

Up to 10 years of imprisonment or S$20,000 fine (approx. US$ 13,000) or BOTH Illegal traffic, import or export of:

 

2. Cannabis of more than 500 grams > DEATH

3. Cannabis resin of more than 200 grams > DEATH

4. Cannabis mixture of more than 1,000 grams > DEATH

 

 

 

Every 19 seconds someone is arrested for a drug felony . And despite rhetoric that nobody goes to jail for cannabis I have never seen anyone arrested end up anywhere else . One of my friends was finnly transfered to a hospital on day 2 of arrest then being put into opiate withdrawls ( a legal patient ) where the emergency room Doctor put her in a straight jacket and left her for 72 more hours on a gurney . She had a stroke , soiled herself it was bad . All they had to do was give her , her regular medication instead of put her in withdrawls that created insanity ( this is in Indiana ) but because they didn't precribe opiates due to jail restrictions ( cruel and unusual punishment used in Michigan all the time and results in suffering and patients have died ) they just cold turkeyed her ( now remember she hasn't been tried yet ) .

 

What was she arrested for in the first place ? Not having her medication in the orginal pharmacy containers per DEA rules nobody ever hears of or is taught . Plus patients are afraid to carry all their medication lincase they have a accident or loose them because they won't get it replaced under the fear their " addicts" I always save the previous months container for this purpose if I travel though being sick and using day planner dispensors I often don't transfer the medicine into them . Even in Foster Care here in Michigan they didn't teach patients compliance with law saying no reasonable officer would arrest someone . I agree but they do and patients need more protections to continuance of care on dependent medications .

 

As my friend had them in a day planner dispensor and a few meds where schedule 2 . She was picking her 11 year old child up at school and had used a bus stop enterance which was restricted , pulled over and searched . She had the charges dropped and a lawsuit for damages later substantiated in the courts but it was tied up in years of appeal and she died from injuries in a auto accident in the same emergency room she was abused in under the same Doctor later the next year after someone crossed the center line and hit the car she was in head on . Since we were just friends from a online severe chronic pain support group I never heard anymore . I have lost track of the group since . At onetime many of us played online Euchre at MSN until they stopped supporting it when Vista was introduced . I learned to type there and met people from all over the world it was a great comfort early on after my car accident where I was hit from behind while waiting for a red light to change .

 

Legislators need to make laws on cannabis with Civil Infractions that keep patients out of Court in the first place it is too dangerous for them ! They also need protections to continuance of care without delays when on dependent medications . Patients should always carry a 24 hour supply when out and about just in case .

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I bleieve that if one looks into the Social Security Administration's origins, one would find that no S.S. numbers even existed in 1890, it was the (Franklin) Roosevelt administration that enacted Social Security, and also how many people even had a birth certificate in 1890??? My father( born 1929) and my wife's father(born 1923)neither had a birth certificate, both were born at home, how many people were born in hospitals in 1890?, just saying there is something very fishy all this, as in rotten fish!! If this is going to be pushed, then I would say that only Native Americans would be eligible for the office of the presidency, how silly all of this is!!

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I bleieve that if one looks into the Social Security Administration's origins, one would find that no S.S. numbers even existed in 1890, it was the (Franklin) Roosevelt administration that enacted Social Security, and also how many people even had a birth certificate in 1890??? My father( born 1929) and my wife's father(born 1923)neither had a birth certificate, both were born at home, how many people were born in hospitals in 1890?, just saying there is something very fishy all this, as in rotten fish!! If this is going to be pushed, then I would say that only Native Americans would be eligible for the office of the presidency, how silly all of this is!!

 

It doesn't say the person received the number in 1890. Presumably they got it when the program was introduced.

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This thread is a joke...

 

I wish people would double check their sources for more reliable pieces of propaganda and hate speech

 

If I wanted to counter the argument that what has either party really done to eradicate the socioeconomic discourse that has run rampant in society with the rampant rate of inflation since y2k, ever decreasing spending power of the dollar, and straight fallout of our nations GDP and with my diaper understanding of macroeconomics tends to lead to a ever increasing viscous cycle with greater inflation

 

Lets look at census data for median family income in MI which is roughly 48,000.

 

In 2000 it was 53,457.

 

So while inflation has run rampant and the working poor wages have decreased the once 2 percent of those earning 91 percent of the wealth have narrowed that gap to roughly 1.7 controlling 94 percent of Americas wealth

 

Bush started the tort reforms and Obama had no choice but to make banks solvent to avoid an even greater disaster than what was seen in oct 1929 and jul 1930. But it doesnt matter the trillions Bush burned in so called patriotic wars against terrorism. Most people where so blindsided by 9-11 that they believed the hype of WMDs and bin ladin that they where for everything bush really i mean what Cheney wanted to do

 

I can rant more but I just ask that if you believe this turn off fox news for a minute and do some reading off the internet and go get some history books read the pentagon papers, look up Tuskegee airmen (the new movie is bs), forced sterilization and eugenics, read some Howard Zinn or James Loewen.

 

You think its bad now you better pray that a Republican doesnt win the national election you dont like Bill Schuette now well how would you like him as National Attorney General you think the dispensary raids will stop?...the feds have made it clear that they will not target medical marijuana patients not engaged in for profit activity, while i do not necessarily agree with that stance so far he has held his end of the bargain and while I do feel strongly that marijuana needs to be rescheduled and yes legalized for sensible adult use I doubt this will happen in any administration until states force their hand through their own legalization statutes

 

Im voting in the primary on the 28th..maybe for Paul but probably Gingrich depending on the delegate situation

 

In Nov i am voting for Obama hes done the best he could do with the pubs controlling the legislative portion of the house,

 

i could rant forever I have stuff todo...lil Blaze i know you are a youngster but double check your facts before you spew some pointless propaganda and do a little history reading

 

peace 420

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This thread is a joke...

 

I wish people would double check their sources for more reliable pieces of propaganda and hate speech

 

If I wanted to counter the argument that what has either party really done to eradicate the socioeconomic discourse that has run rampant in society with the rampant rate of inflation since y2k, ever decreasing spending power of the dollar, and straight fallout of our nations GDP and with my diaper understanding of macroeconomics tends to lead to a ever increasing viscous cycle with greater inflation

 

Lets look at census data for median family income in MI which is roughly 48,000.

 

In 2000 it was 53,457.

 

So while inflation has run rampant and the working poor wages have decreased the once 2 percent of those earning 91 percent of the wealth have narrowed that gap to roughly 1.7 controlling 94 percent of Americas wealth

 

Bush started the tort reforms and Obama had no choice but to make banks solvent to avoid an even greater disaster than what was seen in oct 1929 and jul 1930. But it doesnt matter the trillions Bush burned in so called patriotic wars against terrorism. Most people where so blindsided by 9-11 that they believed the hype of WMDs and bin ladin that they where for everything bush really i mean what Cheney wanted to do

 

I can rant more but I just ask that if you believe this turn off fox news for a minute and do some reading off the internet and go get some history books read the pentagon papers, look up Tuskegee airmen (the new movie is bs), forced sterilization and eugenics, read some Howard Zinn or James Loewen.

 

You think its bad now you better pray that a Republican doesnt win the national election you dont like Bill Schuette now well how would you like him as National Attorney General you think the dispensary raids will stop?...the feds have made it clear that they will not target medical marijuana patients not engaged in for profit activity, while i do not necessarily agree with that stance so far he has held his end of the bargain and while I do feel strongly that marijuana needs to be rescheduled and yes legalized for sensible adult use I doubt this will happen in any administration until states force their hand through their own legalization statutes

 

Im voting in the primary on the 28th..maybe for Paul but probably Gingrich depending on the delegate situation

 

In Nov i am voting for Obama hes done the best he could do with the pubs controlling the legislative portion of the house,

 

i could rant forever I have stuff todo...lil Blaze i know you are a youngster but double check your facts before you spew some pointless propaganda and do a little history reading

 

peace 420

 

 

How is this even remotely on topic? This is about the court case in Georgia regarding Obama's eligibility. You want to go down that slippery Orwellian slope calling it hate speech?

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they do not even have a case, this is bull. i do not favor Obama newt or Mitt.. but obama would be better for patients than Newt or Mitt,

 

they are all crooks skull and bones or what ever

is absolutely clear that Mitt Romney is NOT a Natural Born Citizen unless he can prove that George Romney gained citizenship from naturalization prior to Mitt’s birth in 1947.

 

Mitt Romney’s father George was born in Chihuahua, Mexico in 1907

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