Are Feds Getting Ready To Loosen Up?

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http://www.examiner.com/article/proposed-bill-to-legalize-marijuana-at-federal-level-instituting-50-percent-tax

Bipartisan effort to get feds out of med marijuana. But comes at a price maybe---50% tax.

[mibrains]

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20130204/DA482F300.html

 

Feb 4, 4:26 PM (ET)

 

By GENE JOHNSON

(AP) In this Nov. 7, 2012 file photo, Jake Dimmock, co-owner of the Northwest Patient Resource...

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SEATTLE (AP) - An effort is building in Congress to change U.S. marijuana laws, including moves to legalize the industrial production of hemp and establish a hefty federal pot tax.

While passage this year could be a longshot, lawmakers from both parties have been quietly working on several bills, the first of which Democratic Reps. Earl Blumenauer of Oregon and Jared Polis of Colorado plan to introduce Tuesday, Blumenauer told The Associated Press.

[bobandtorey]

Thanks I believe it will happen and it was only a few years ago that I was saying it would not happen

And today it not if its when

[TheHarvester]

I think we are very close. There's more and more news like this, the momentum is 100% ours.

[Kingdiamond]

If its legalized and then growers are forced to get a government permit to grow and give up half of what they earn all this is going to do is create more black market sales they could vote to legalize and be reasonable by placing a nominal tax % but no they want to legalize put a ridiculous tax % on it and leave the door open for criminal prosecution for those who choose not to let the government tax them to death.

[Restorium2]

If its legalized and then growers are forced to get a government permit to grow and give up half of what they earn all this is going to do is create more black market sales they could vote to legalize and be reasonable by placing a nominal tax % but no they want to legalize put a ridiculous tax % on it and leave the door open for criminal prosecution for those who choose not to let the government tax them to death.

I agree. It's not workable, and would be going backwards, UNLESS they let you grow your own.

[peanutbutter]

http://ssdp.org/action/ending-federal-marijuana-prohibition-act-of-2013/

 

Please send a note of support for this bill.

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http://ssdp.org/acti...on-act-of-2013/

 

Please send a note of support for this bill.

Thanks for the link.

[Dr. Bob]

The fact they are discussing it is a good sign. Couple of years away I would suspect, but it is moving.

 

Dr. Bob

[CaveatLector]

The fact they are discussing it is a good sign. Couple of years away I would suspect, but it is moving.

 

Dr. Bob

Doc, any ruminations taking place with any of the professional organizations (AMA)? I know the AMA came out in support of medical mj a couple of years ago. Have you heard anything else?

[Herb Cannabis]

http://ssdp.org/acti...on-act-of-2013/

 

Please send a note of support for this bill.

 

Completed 9:47 PM, February 6, 2013.

[peanutbutter]

thank you.

 

Yeah .. the walls are tumbling down ..

 

There seems to be about a dozen such laws about to be introduced.

 

I don't think we need a federal tax on our plants. Or medicine.

 

You want taxes from marijuana? Collect it at the liqueur stores. Meanwhile medicine isn't taxed in Michigan.

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There seems to be about a dozen such laws about to be introduced.

 

State laws? Do you know how many other states are currently working on state laws?

[peanutbutter]

State laws? Do you know how many other states are currently working on state laws?

 

No .. federal.

[CaveatLector]

No .. federal.

Well that's promising then. I didn't know that many existed. Do you know how many were around a year or 2 ago? I'm wondering if this is the same count as it has always been or whether this is new activity. For example, the Barney Frank bills were renewed many times I believe. He just kept pushing it perennially.

[peanutbutter]

For states .. I think it's up to 17?

 

Oh the times, they are a changing ..

[peanutbutter]

Well that's promising then. I didn't know that many existed. Do you know how many were around a year or 2 ago? I'm wondering if this is the same count as it has always been or whether this is new activity. For example, the Barney Frank bills were renewed many times I believe. He just kept pushing it perennially.

 

Legalization in CO and WA seems to have changed the tone in DC. Before they might have thought about: what to do about medical. CO and WA blew right past that ..

 

I think, before, you might see two or 3 per year.

Edited February 7, 2013 by peanutbutter

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I think, before, you might see two or 3 per year.

[CaveatLector]

I know that on one or more of the latest bills it has been reported that there is a bipartisan effort. Anyone know if there are heavy hitters sponsoring this on the republican side or whether it is just some no-name republicans?

[peanutbutter]

I know that on one or more of the latest bills it has been reported that there is a bipartisan effort. Anyone know if there are heavy hitters sponsoring this on the republican side or whether it is just some no-name republicans?

 

I don't think on this one. But other bills are about to arrive.

[peanutbutter]

I know that on one or more of the latest bills it has been reported that there is a bipartisan effort. Anyone know if there are heavy hitters sponsoring this on the republican side or whether it is just some no-name republicans?

 

A couple of months ago, I was trying to explain about the laws that we are building today. How those laws would still be there after the change in federal law.

 

I bet they sill just toss up their hands and say let the states decide.

 

THEN .. those pompous jerks in city consul meetings saying "it's against federal law" will have NOTHING to fall back on. They're gonna have a five egg breakfast in their faces.

[t-pain]

Jared Polis D-CO (who introduced the federal bill the other day) has introduced similar bills that died in the previous years.

the barney frank and ron paul bill is 'bi-partisan' although with only two sponsors, it goes nowhere as well.

 

nows not the time to celebrate. now is the time to contact your reps.

 

legalization still is an uphill battle. even a medical defense in south dakota failed. the drug warriors are still around, just staying real quiet for now.

 

you think they all went 'oh, CO and WA legalized it, i guess we should too?' ???

cannabis is still being compared to child porn by drug warriors. we're in for a fierce battle until 2016.

obviously the DEA is going to fight it tooth and nail. did you see leonharts testimony? she whouldnt even answer the question about heroin vs marijuana.

 

and that was just 7 months ago. the DEA hasnt changed its position.

Edited February 7, 2013 by t-pain

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A couple of months ago, I was trying to explain about the laws that we are building today. How those laws would still be there after the change in federal law.

 

I bet they sill just toss up their hands and say let the states decide.

 

THEN .. those pompous jerks in city consul meetings saying "it's against federal law" will have NOTHING to fall back on. They're gonna have a five egg breakfast in their faces.

I agree. I think they may tax it federally but let the states decide if they want to legalize for medical use and also let the states regulate. I think eventually we can see the feds regulating it as well, just as they regulate any drugs. But who knows, they could go all out and regulate to some degree. Obviously they would have to reschedule and with that would come automatic regulations based on the schedule.