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[Kingpinn]

Ok they dropped charges. But I told the judge I wanted compensation for the 12 plants that Magnet killed and a half oz of weed. Was wondering what people think 12 marijuana plants that Magnet had no right to kill what do you think them plants are worth ??

[trichcycler]

1k each has been established

but time, genetic availability can be considered?

not sure if they ever paid out though

[Restorium2]

12K

[knucklehead bob]

Ok they dropped charges. But I told the judge I wanted compensation for the 12 plants that Magnet killed and a half oz of weed. Was wondering what people think 12 marijuana plants that Magnet had no right to kill what do you think them plants are worth ??

$22,000 , plus lost time . . . .

[trichcycler]

defamation of character too

[t-pain]

$3500 per plant.

thats cost of the plant plus what your time was worth growing and cultivating said plants.

 

they were outside? so you cant charge them for the electricity?

 

tell em you want compensation for them breaking your confidential patient info. now everybody knows about you!

 

(4) A person, including an employee, contractor, or official of the department or another state agency or local unit of government, who discloses confidential information in violation of this act is guilty of a misdemeanor, punishable by imprisonment for not more than 6 months, or a fine of not more than $1,000.00, or both. Notwithstanding this provision, department employees may notify law enforcement about falsified or fraudulent information submitted to the department.

 

lara's administrative rules:

R 333.121 Confidentiality.

Rule 21. (1) Except as provided in subrules(2) and (3) of this rule, Michigan medical
marihuana program information shall be confidential and not subject to disclosure in any
form or manner.

 

tell the judge you want your entire record expunged from the system and all court files sealed.

Edited February 13, 2014 by t-pain

[bobandtorey]

[booberry43]

Great news

[MiMedical]

$3500 per plant.

thats cost of the plant plus what your time was worth growing and cultivating said plants.

 

they were outside? so you cant charge them for the electricity?

 

tell em you want compensation for them breaking your confidential patient info. now everybody knows about you!

 

(4) A person, including an employee, contractor, or official of the department or another state agency or local unit of government, who discloses confidential information in violation of this act is guilty of a misdemeanor, punishable by imprisonment for not more than 6 months, or a fine of not more than $1,000.00, or both. Notwithstanding this provision, department employees may notify law enforcement about falsified or fraudulent information submitted to the department.

 

lara's administrative rules:

R 333.121 Confidentiality.

Rule 21. (1) Except as provided in subrules(2) and (3) of this rule, Michigan medical

marihuana program information shall be confidential and not subject to disclosure in any

form or manner.

 

tell the judge you want your entire record expunged from the system and all court files sealed.

    I like this idea. What does Mr. Abel say about the idea?

 

 

Edit: Bob why would you post something like that, his question is not remotely close to a dream, it's the next step.. you know, like the courts like to take things in steps.

Edited February 13, 2014 by MiMedical

[Restorium2]

    I like this idea. What does Mr. Abel say about the idea?

 

 

Edit: Bob why would you post something like that, his question is not remotely close to a dream, it's the next step.. you know, like the courts like to take things in steps.

He was growing in plain view might play into it.

[MiMedical]

He was growing in plain view might play into it.

 

Could. But I like confidentiality issue.

[LongHairBri]

I'd use their own math against them. research several busts, take plant count / $$$ they claim

 

I bet it comes out $5,000 at least per plant

[outsideinthecold]

There is no way I can appreciate the wringer they put Kingpinn through.

 

Any mmj caregiver or patient owes him their thanks.

 

On the matter of plant values I'd suggest considering something like $150/per plant.

 

My 'caregiver' valuation is based on $100/oz for an one-and-a-half of useable mmj per plant.

 

It irks the heck out of me when local plant police value plants (and cuttings!) at $1000 each.

 

While I'd certainly want as much paypack as possible if I were Kingpinn's shoes, if the Shiawassee PA agrees to $150/plant wouldn't it form a basis for more reasonable valuations in the future by the future customers of the arrest and punishment industry?

 

The past can't be changed but maybe we can work towards a better future.

 

I truly believe Kingpinn's persecution will help make things better for others in the coming days.

Edited February 13, 2014 by outsideinthecold

[trichcycler]

some things to consider, thanks outsideinthecold.

 

It costs more than 150 dollars to obtain and grow "a plant" to maturity possibly ? My insurance company values them at 1000 dollars each, partly where I got the figure.

They got the figure from the old tax stamps info. It made sense to me with finish weight, electricity, acquisition, fertilizer, substrate, equipment.

[t-pain]

http://www.coloradoan.com/article/20121216/NEWS01/312160050/Man-sues-Larimer-sheriff-over-destroyed-medical-marijuana-plants-after-acquittal

 

some stats pulled off news articles in google

 

 

1,700 marijuana plants worth $3.8 million = $2235 per plant

One answer is $3,000. That's the estimated value the San Diego County Sheriff's Department assigns to every marijuana plant it discovers, whether it is young or old, short or tall, grown inside or outdoors, of high quality or low, cultivated by an experienced grower or a first-timer, said sheriff's Lt. Hank Turner.

3,000 plants, valued at approximately $9 million = $3000 per plant

135 marijuana plants worth more than $400000 = $2962 per plant

Some 100 sturdy young marijuana plants worth up to $2,000 each

Their attorneys contend that each plant -- almost certainly dead now -- was worth $3,000 to $3,500.

20,000 marijuana plants worth $50 million = $2500

488 marijuana plants with an estimated value of $1.7 million = $3483

145 marijuana plants estimated street value of the marijuana is $435,000 = $3000

600 cannabis plants with an estimated street value of $3 million = $5000

100 marijuana plants with an estimated street value of $100,000. = $1000

http://stopthedrugwar.org/speakeasy/2009/oct/13/whats_actual_value_marijuana_pla

http://www.drugscience.org/Archive/bcr2/estproc.html

 

oh yeah, since its winter when they returned your plants, now you have to grow them indoors, so add in some heat and electricity bills...

Edited February 13, 2014 by t-pain

[MiMedical]

http://www.coloradoan.com/article/20121216/NEWS01/312160050/Man-sues-Larimer-sheriff-over-destroyed-medical-marijuana-plants-after-acquittal

 

some stats pulled off news articles in google

 

 

1,700 marijuana plants worth $3.8 million = $2235 per plant

 

One answer is $3,000. That's the estimated value the San Diego County Sheriff's Department assigns to every marijuana plant it discovers, whether it is young or old, short or tall, grown inside or outdoors, of high quality or low, cultivated by an experienced grower or a first-timer, said sheriff's Lt. Hank Turner.

 

3,000 plants, valued at approximately $9 million = $3000 per plant

 

135 marijuana plants worth more than $400000 = $2962 per plant

 

Some 100 sturdy young marijuana plants worth up to $2,000 each

 

Their attorneys contend that each plant -- almost certainly dead now -- was worth $3,000 to $3,500.

 

20,000 marijuana plants worth $50 million = $2500

 

488 marijuana plants with an estimated value of $1.7 million = $3483

 

145 marijuana plants estimated street value of the marijuana is $435,000 = $3000

 

600 cannabis plants with an estimated street value of $3 million = $5000

 

100 marijuana plants with an estimated street value of $100,000. = $1000

 

http://stopthedrugwar.org/speakeasy/2009/oct/13/whats_actual_value_marijuana_pla

 

http://www.drugscience.org/Archive/bcr2/estproc.html

 

oh yeah, since its winter when they returned your plants, now you have to grow them indoors, so add in some heat and electricity bills...

 

 

 

[LongHairBri]

3K per outdoor plant sounds quite reasonable to me.....but $36,000 should be applied to each year/season you were prevented from growing your medicine due to this frivolous lawsuit

[mibrains]

[cristinew]

 If the case ends without prejudice, the accused in the case (the defendant) may be retried.  Now how did they dismiss your charge?

 

With or Without? 

 

 

[Kingpinn]

With this case is over

 

 If the case ends without prejudice, the accused in the case (the defendant) may be retried.  Now how did they dismiss your charge?

 

With or Without? 

 

 

Edited February 13, 2014 by Kingpinn