Hi Radiation In Michigan From Japan

[CaveatLector]

Very informative post Restorium. It explains were tim goes awry. Treating cancer with chemo doesn't mean you will never die from the cancer. Cancer survival rates are based on 5-year blocks of time. When stats are compiled they are generally compiled based on those 5 year rates. Why? Because stats tend to show that the great majority of people who survive to 5 years after first diagnosis will remain cancer-free. No one is claiming chemo is a definite cure but stats also show much much higher survival rates to, and beyond, 5 years for those electing chemo. I've never met a Dr. who claims chemo cures cancer (using tim's definition of cure).

 

Arguing that chemo "cures" cancer is equivocating on the word "cure." You define it how you want but disregard how it is being defined by the Dr. Then you use your definition to try and invalidate the Dr's stats. Classic logical fallacy.

 

As for medcman's argument above, it doesn't make sense. It's statistical analysis. I've you flip a coin then you have a 50% chance of flipping heads. Does that mean it will be heads every other time? Of course not. Does that mean if you flip it 3 times and it's heads those 3 times then it must be tails the next 3? No. This is elementary statistics...

[peanutbutter]

WOW .. thank you again.

 

You see, Jims, it's all about the stories that people tell me.

 

When I put this stuff together, I expected to find something for some pain relief. Maybe some reduction in inflammation.

 

I didn't expect to hear and see all of this.

[CaveatLector]

 

I did? I said that? Just let it be? Where/when did I say that? You very clearly didn't follow the logical flow of my argument. Then you go off on some tangent and say it works for pain management. Use whatever you want for pain management. That's your option. But don't mislead cancer patients into thinking they should forgo chemo in favor of some unproven concoction. Lastly, weren't you the one whom was confused but what people meant when they said pb's oil? Seems if I scroll up you were calling pb's oil RSO. Did you just now figure out the difference or are you still confused?

[CaveatLector]

 

What does, "risk being number 4" mean?

[CaveatLector]

Is anyone asking him to sit around and risk that? I think you are thoroughly confused about what I have been saying.

[Timmahh]

Wow, your in Law and Can't figure that out? and we wonder why the legal system is So Fked up.

 

Seems to me His Bro in Law does not feel like Being the 4th person in his Family to DIE from Chemo to fight a Fricking Virus.

 

 

no facts but arguing like they have them. CL, May I suggest you become a Prosecuting Attorney.

You are a Natural. A good CL never lets the Facts come between themselves and a conviction.

Edited August 20, 2012 by Timmahh

[Timmahh]

Me 3. I ve seen enough of my family waste away to nothing while being Chemocured.

[CaveatLector]

Wow, your in Law and Can't figure that out? and we wonder why the legal system is So Fked up.

 

Seems to me His Bro in Law does not feel like Being the 4th person in his Family to DIE from Chemo to fight a Fricking Virus.

 

 

no facts but arguing like they have them. CL, May I suggest you become a Prosecuting Attorney.

You are a Natural. A good CL never lets the Facts come between themselves and a conviction.

obviously you didn't read the thread or you would know what the reference to "4th" was. So much for having the facts before you run your mouth.

[CaveatLector]

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[Restorium2]

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Says the 'person from the audience' again. The one and only. And PB is your neighbor, we know. LOL It doesn't change the fact that Tim was messed up with his number 4 comment. He didn't understand the story line you already had set up with the four witnesses, not 4 cancer patients. The 4 witnesses that witnesses your dog's recovering from the strain injury. Just like what you said about yourself. You pulled a muscle, you put some of PB limament on it. It felt better after a while. Good. No, GREAT! It's just what you would expect. Just don't drink it, OK? If you guys want to keep it a secret then go for it. Or you could do like most of the rest of us and show how any patient can do this themselves without paying peanutbutter anything. That's your choice. Either just help people or help yourself to their money. That's life.

[Restorium2]

I don't want to speak for CaveatLector, but it seems to me that he is not questioning the efficacy of peanutbutters oil for topical pain relief applications, but the use of fallout scares to sell it for a questionable purpose. He may also be questioning the use of oil over chemotherapy for cancer treatment, which is valid.

Exactly. We were saying about the same thing, at the same time, independantly reaching the same conclusion. There aren't many breaks in the clouds like this. A moment of clarity...

Edited August 20, 2012 by Restorium2

[phaquetoo]

WOW .. thank you again.

 

You see, Jims, it's all about the stories that people tell me.

 

When I put this stuff together, I expected to find something for some pain relief. Maybe some reduction in inflammation.

 

I didn't expect to hear and see all of this.

 

yep, but im supposed to be just reading in this one now am i not? lol

 

Peace

Jim

[Restorium2]

 

Why would you drink it? You have described rubbing it on your skin, like you are supposed to to do with a topical. But why the heck would you drink it? The added ingredients make it work better through your skin so WHY drink it?

[Restorium2]

 

And why did you pick that part of my comment to ask about? Is that the only part that reached you? There's a lot more I said that should have been worth commenting on by you.

[Restorium2]

 

Yes. And that is a topical treatment, right? Just use 100% pure cannabis oil on that. Why would you want to give him less than that? You have real pure cannabis oil right? Do you need help? For free?

[Restorium2]

I know there is clary sage and osha root in there, are those edible?

The whole recipe is aimed at an improvement topically for deep muscle trama.

[Restorium2]

last warning, get back to topic without the moo poo or this thread will be locked.

Seemed like a normal conversation to me. Nothing personal. Reaching some common ground. Maybe helping some people with the comments. Oh well.

[Restorium2]

Radiation in Michigan from Japan it is. I'm feeling pretty good today, how about you?

[phaquetoo]

Ok this may sound pretty bad coming from me, I was asked to not judge p.b's oil if I did not try it myself, and save my comments till I do.

 

I truly have been just reading this for chits n giggles, ive been around this site a lil longer than alot of people in here, so Ive read most of your posts over the yrs, as you may have read mine!

 

and let me say this, I dont have anything against any one in this thread no one! But im pretty sure my posting rites would be taken away from me if I swore at some one or personaly called some one an a hole now wouldnt I? well I have been, and Im pretty sure that is one of the rules of posting in 3ma no personal attacks, it that rule does not exist any longer please let me know!

 

Becuase im dying to rip a bunch of peeps a new one!

 

Peace

Jim

[Restorium2]

 

No one is giving you any heat for using cannabis oil. We are all cannabis oil fans here. Every single one of us posting in this thread believes it helps a lot of things. I even offered to help with your family member's cancer treatment, for free, walking the walk, I'm not feeling anything from Japan today, are you?

[phaquetoo]

 

 

I hear ya!

I was presenting a question to admin who kept saying stay on topic lmao!

 

Peace

Jim

[knucklehead bob]

what does radiation feel like? Mm

[Restorium2]

 

I believe 100% pure would be the best for him. Since the cancer is right there where you can easily reach it.

 

My father-in-law said radiation made his ears feel hot. That's was fairly close to his death.

[Restorium2]

 

Tasting metal is from chemo, not radiation(from Japan or otherwise). She probably had both going on.

 

Put a dab of the pure stuff on a bandaid over the lesion. You run out I'll help. Is it that you don't know how to make it or you don't grow?

[Restorium2]

Even if he didn't get it from radiation from Japan.... a little dab on the bandaid would be what I would do. If you run out I will help you find some for him.