Medical Marajuana Bills Being Reintroduced This Session!

[GregS]

It's just the beginning.

 

 Odds are these  fail.  The vast majority of bills fail every session. ;-)

Rolling up my sleeves now.

[Restorium2]

Sounds like you are having a happy day!

 

good for you!

 

Peace

WTF? Being right about getting flogged isn't 'happy' for me. You must like that? I don't. Call your rep and tell them to vote NO might make me less unhappy though. 

[Restorium2]

i believe the any preparation is taken out because its replaced by the edibles limits which are

16 oz of solid

72 of liquid

and the gaseous lol.. please lets not fight about what gaseous is again.

wax shatter hash are all solids last tiem i looked.

oil, tincture, balms are liquids as far as i can tell too.

gaseous would be some kind of aeresol product, maybe a breath spray or inhaler.

They didn't need to take it out.  Schuette wanted it out.

[Restorium2]

It's just the beginning.

 

 Odds are these  fail.  The vast majority of bills fail every session. ;-)

All these are good for is showing intent. If you pay attention you see the intent of the writers and who they are listening to and who they intend to help and hurt. It helps when the suckarses try to say this rep or that rep is dealing with us in good faith. Like when someone defends Jones or the governor after they hatefest all over us. And it also helps at the polls next election cycle. All you can do is look at their actions and judge their intent from that. And by the way, thanks for never sugar coating these bad reps and always telling it like it is. Nice to be able to count on someone like that that sees what is going on and tells it like it is.

[t-pain]

the sec4A (stupid name for a new section in the MMMA) addition in lyons bill provides a person is not subject to arrest prosecution or criminal penalty for a transfer or use of marihuana or usable marihuana equivalents from or to a provisioning center.

 

(2) A PERSON IS NOT SUBJECT TO ARREST, PROSECUTION, OR

CRIMINAL PENALTY FOR A TRANSFER OR USE OF MARIHUANA OR USABLE

MARIHUANA EQUIVALENTS FROM OR TWO A PROVISIONING CENTER IN AN AMOUNT

AUTHORIZED BY LAW AND IN CONFORMITY WITH ANY RESTRICTIONS IN THIS

ACT OR THE MEDICAL MARIHUANA PROVISIONING CENTER REGULATION ACT.

HOWEVER, A QUALIFYING PATIENT OR REGISTERED CAREGIVER SHALL NOT

TRANSFER MORE THAN 50 OUNCES OF USABLE MARIHUANA TO A MEDICAL

MARIHUANA PROVISIONING CENTER DURING A 30-DAY CALENDAR PERIOD.

boiled down...

(2) A PERSON IS NOT SUBJECT TO ARREST, PROSECUTION, OR

CRIMINAL PENALTY FOR USE OF MARIHUANA FROM A PROVISIONING CENTER.

but it does not provide the same immunity from "denial of any right or privledge' like sec4 provides for .

 

what this means is that if you use marihuana or edible from a dispensary , then you CAN be given civil fines and such? or denied rights or privledges ? like they can take your drivers license away?

 

or am i reading too much into this? anyone care to opine on it?

Edited February 13, 2015 by t-pain

[Restorium2]

the sec4A (stupid name for a new section in the MMMA) addition in lyons bill provides a person is not subject to arrest prosecution or criminal penalty for a transfer or use of marihuana or usable marihuana equivalents from or to a provisioning center.

 

but it does not provide the same immunity from "denial of any right or privledge' like sec4ab provides for .

 

what this means is that if you use marihuana or edible from a dispensary , then you CAN be given civil fines and such? or denied rights or privledges ? like they can take your drivers license away?

 

this needs to change methinks.

They will most likely take that out of section 4ab too. 

[+Malamute]

Don't give them Too much credit. I think this is just ignorance.

 

noted.

[t-pain]

well section 8 of the dispensary bill seems to put the protections back in.

er no it doesnt. it only provides protections from transferring, not USE...

 

goddamn this is tricky business.

 

but yes, keep an eye on it. a small change here or there could null some protections for no good reason.

 

thanks mal. keep an eye on this baloney!

 

they should just modify sec4k of the act to exclude transfers to dispensaries.

when i get done with all my problems with the bills i'll put them in a new thread so they dont get lost.

Edited February 13, 2015 by t-pain

[Restorium2]

Don't give them Too much credit. I think this is just ignorance.

 

noted.

Just as bad. Effects us the same in the long run. I'm assuming it's on purpose because they generally are adverse to broadening the Act which is known from past actions.

[t-pain]

lets put it this way, they are writing it to be as limited and restricted as possible while bad players are simultaneously keeping secret any loopholes that help prosecutors and police. not to mention the hundreds of rewrites from many many people who have their fingers in this cookie jar.

[Restorium2]

lets put it this way, they are writing it to be as limited and restricted as possible while bad players are simultaneously keeping secret any loopholes that help prosecutors and police. not to mention the hundreds of rewrites from many many people who have their fingers in this cookie jar.

Well put.

[Wild Bill]

Don't give them Too much credit. I think this is just ignorance.

 

noted.

That's sums it all up! That's why they made it illegal in the first place.

 

The tradition is carried forward.

[bobandtorey]

lets put it this way, they are writing it to be as limited and restricted as possible while bad players are simultaneously keeping secret any loopholes that help prosecutors and police. not to mention the hundreds of rewrites from many, many people who have their fingers in this cookie jar.

 

 

Thanks 

Now it sounds like you get the picture >>>>> Loopholes that help prosecutors and police.

 

What do you think  can be done to stop them from opening the Act ? if anything at all

[Restorium2]

They have to get 75%. Trip them up anyway you can think of. Think like a conservative and express your disdain that all the Republicans want to do is play with medical marijuana bills when our state has a lot of other important issues right now. How much time and money have they wasted in the last 6 months on this? Tell them you are tired of hearing about marijuana all the time on the news. They duck and cover just like last session. Think of it this way, you only need 26%. We won last year, we can do it again. 

[bobandtorey]

They have to get 75%. Trip them up anyway you can think of. Think like a conservative and express your disdain that all the Republicans want to do is play with medical marijuana bills when our state has a lot of other important issues right now. How much time and money have they wasted in the last 6 months on this? Tell them you are tired of hearing about marijuana all the time on the news. They duck and cover just like last session. Think of it this way, you only need 26%. We won last year, we can do it again. 

Great points 

 

Thanks

[Restorium2]

Keep quoting Callton when he said a vote for his dispensary bill is a vote to kill home grows. Make your message fit your audience. You don't need to even bend the truth. Just tell it like it is. They have given us plenty of ammo to get our 26%. 

[Restorium2]

They are attempting to remove 'any preparation there of' from the Act before it can be implemented by the Supreme Court. Our rights have not even come to flower and they want to pick em and trash em before they bloom.

Edited February 14, 2015 by Restorium2

[GregS]

Don't give them Too much credit. I think this is just ignorance.

 

noted.

These fools can't legislate their way out of a paper bag. The transport law is one example. We know it to be unconstitutional and why. On another front we know them to be working to allow landlords and people in public places to discriminate against us.

Edited February 14, 2015 by GregS

[Restorium2]

But then you see the 15 pages of marked up bills from Schuette and you know there IS method to their madness .....

[GregS]

But then you see the 15 pages of marked up bills from Schuette and you know there IS method to their madness .....

That's no secret. These people did not get where they are by accident. They do know how to game the system.

[Restorium2]

Game The System = Messing up a law voted in by The People.  

 

Good thing our Supreme Court is having none of that. 

[GregS]

Hell is empty and the devils are here.

Edited February 14, 2015 by GregS

[bobandtorey]

Hell is empty and the devils are here.

[t-pain]

 

schutte pops up at the end of the video

[Restorium2]

These are law enforcements' bills designed to take away the law voted on by the people before it is implemented by the Supreme Court. All masks are off. Not once did anyone say this helps anyone but law enforcement. With grass roots decriminalization of marijuana spreading across the State law enforcement doesn't need any help with controlling medical marijuana users, rather law enforcement has self control issues they need to deal with. Their expressed needs and desires do not match what the people want them to do. That's what the legislature needs to fix by not giving them a 75% vote on their bills. 

Edited February 16, 2015 by Restorium2