t-pain Report post Posted March 19, 2015 (edited) http://legislature.mi.gov/doc.aspx?2015-HB-4357 March 18, 2015, Introduced by Rep. Lucido and referred to the Committee on Judiciary. A bill to amend 1949 PA 300, entitled "Michigan vehicle code," by amending section 625 (MCL 257.625) (8) A Except as otherwise provided in this subsection, a person, whether licensed or not, shall not operate a vehicle upon a highway or other place open to the general public or generally accessible to motor vehicles, including an area designated for the parking of vehicles, within this state if the person has in his or her body any amount of a controlled substance listed in schedule 1 under section 7212 of the public health code, 1978 PA 368, MCL 333.7212, or a rule promulgated under that section, or of a controlled substance described in section 7214(a)(iv) of the public health code, 1978 PA 368, MCL 333.7214. However, this subsection does not apply if the person is a qualifying patient who has been issued and possesses a registry identification card, and if he or she has in his or her body a tetrahydrocannabinol content of less than 5 nanograms per 1 milliliter of blood. As used in this subsection, "qualifying patient" and "registry identification card" mean those terms as defined in section 3 of the Michigan medical marihuana act, 2008 IL 1, MCL 333.26423. Edited March 19, 2015 by t-pain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
t-pain Report post Posted March 19, 2015 (edited) also this one, apparently. http://www.legislature.mi.gov/documents/2015-2016/billintroduced/House/htm/2015-HIB-4356.htm HOUSE BILL No. 4356 March 18, 2015, Introduced by Rep. Kesto and referred to the Committee on Judiciary. A bill to amend 1927 PA 175, entitled "The code of criminal procedure," by amending section 48 of chapter XVII (MCL 777.48), as amended by 2013 PA 24. 11 © The offender operated a vehicle, vessel, ORV, 12 snowmobile, aircraft, or locomotive while the offender 13 was under the influence of alcoholic or intoxicating 14 liquor, a controlled substance, or a combination of 15 alcoholic or intoxicating liquor and a controlled 16 substance; or while the offender's body contained any 17 amount of a controlled substance listed in schedule 1 18 under section 7212 of the public health code, 1978 PA 19 368, MCL 333.7212, other than less than 5 nanograms 20 of tetrahydrocannabinol per 1 milliliter of blood if 21 the offender was a qualifying patient who was issued 22 and possesses a registry identification card under 23 the Michigan medical marihuana act, 2008 IL 1, 24 MCL 333.26421 to 333.26430, Edited March 19, 2015 by t-pain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
t-pain Report post Posted March 19, 2015 neither one of these amend the act... so maybe keep quiet... shhhh 1 phaquetoo reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Norby Report post Posted March 19, 2015 How about allowing any level that is below impairment so that it's not biased? Why do cops not have to prove impairment? 2 medmanmike and Greg Rx reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Malamute Report post Posted March 19, 2015 They do. Kill the bills and shutup about it. ;-) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slipstar059 Report post Posted March 19, 2015 Wasn't there already a Supreme Court decicision that dealt with this? 5 nanograms means nothing, you can't quantify cannabis like alcohol. 1 Indigro reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phaquetoo Report post Posted March 19, 2015 ok so my mom goes to wallmarts about every other day, she has never gotten a ticket in her life, she is doing rx's for her pain, she is on vicoden and xanax so if she was to get pulled over for swerving or something she would get dui,,,,,,why does all of the prescriptions including methadon, oxci''s and all the rest of the opoids and other pills that are addicting and most def do influence your life/driving and just in general a normal life all say dont operate heavy machinery untill you are used to the effects of this medication! welll I have to tell ya I have been using mj since I was 9yrs old regularly, I have had two accidents in my entire life, and I was not at fault on either of them and it was proven. how come we dont hear of older folks with their lil pill carriers (not the rx bottle) not gettting arrested for dui? mm is not as big of a factor as opoids in people on the road, I will admit I cant realy burn one if I have to drive more than an hr, I get the nods and usualy have to pull over at a rest area and take a nap so I can be an alert driver the rest of the way! Why are mm users being arrested at an alarming rate and not others on rx's? Peace 6 flower pharm, Quadcarl, fishhead and 3 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Malamute Report post Posted March 19, 2015 Well, here is the dooshbag ya can thank for licking the MSP/PAAM's arsehole and weighing in on something he has absolutely no clue about: I am a Republican. I suck. My voters are idiots who vote for me because they are idiots. DISTRICTState Rep. Peter J. Lucido was first elected to serve the 36th District in November 2014. The district covers part of Macomb County including Bruce, Washington and part of Shelby townships and the Village of Romeo. 3 Restorium2, budpuffer and Chauncy Gardner reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Budz-4-U Report post Posted March 19, 2015 "less than 5 nanograms of tetrahydrocannabinol per 1 milliliter of blood" So, is this the "active" stuff that stays in your blood for a few hours ?? Or, is this the stuff that is stored in your body for around a month ?? Huge difference in the two. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GregS Report post Posted March 20, 2015 I'm still waiting to see what impairment to the point of a hazard looks like. To lick and stick a 5ng/dl limit is capricious and arbitrary. If they do their science I might agree to reasonable limits. Does anyone really think they will study that without bias? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+washtenaut Report post Posted June 26, 2015 http://time.com/3930541/marijuana-impact-driving/ Anyone in an ongoing legal case about cannabis impaired driving may like this NIDA study. Note that, while interesting, the videos embedded in the Time article are actually different cannabis stories Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bobandtorey Report post Posted June 28, 2015 "less than 5 nanograms of tetrahydrocannabinol per 1 milliliter of blood" So, is this the "active" stuff that stays in your blood for a few hours ?? Or, is this the stuff that is stored in your body for around a month ?? Huge difference in the two. i'm no Lawyer and i say So, is this the "active" stuff that stays in your blood for a few hours ?? Yes Or, is this the stuff that is stored in your body for around a month ?? No that has already been ruled on the Koon case Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bobandtorey Report post Posted June 28, 2015 They still have to do a road test we all know that you are not stoned after about 2 hours then the THC drops down Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Restorium2 Report post Posted June 28, 2015 They still have to do a road test we all know that you are not stoned after about 2 hours then the THC drops down We all know most of us are not stoned enough to impair our driving once we get used to the drug. I can pass a road sobriety field test no matter how much I smoke or when. And I smoke the most powerful cannabis strains there are at times. There 's a lot of BS going around about cannabis driving impairment. Try not to buy into it. 1 Hydraulic Jack reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trichcycler Report post Posted June 28, 2015 ok so my mom goes to wallmarts about every other day, she has never gotten a ticket in her life, she is doing rx's for her pain, she is on vicoden and xanax so if she was to get pulled over for swerving or something she would get dui,,,,,,why does all of the prescriptions including methadon, oxci''s and all the rest of the opoids and other pills that are addicting and most def do influence your life/driving and just in general a normal life all say dont operate heavy machinery untill you are used to the effects of this medication! welll I have to tell ya I have been using mj since I was 9yrs old regularly, I have had two accidents in my entire life, and I was not at fault on either of them and it was proven. how come we dont hear of older folks with their lil pill carriers (not the rx bottle) not gettting arrested for dui? mm is not as big of a factor as opoids in people on the road, I will admit I cant realy burn one if I have to drive more than an hr, I get the nods and usualy have to pull over at a rest area and take a nap so I can be an alert driver the rest of the way! Why are mm users being arrested at an alarming rate and not others on rx's? Peace Because most everyones investment portfolio counts on citizens consuming mass quantities of prescription medication, not natural cannabis. Stocks, profits,dividends......follow the money Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bobandtorey Report post Posted June 28, 2015 I can agree that people are consuming prescription medication and a lot but some is still needed for different sicknesses cannabis would be my first choice if i had it to use but it may not work as well after a Doctor get done cutting on you because after you get home it does hurt a lot Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bobandtorey Report post Posted June 28, 2015 We all know most of us are not stoned enough to impair our driving once we get used to the drug. I can pass a road sobriety field test no matter how much I smoke or when. And I smoke the most powerful cannabis strains there are at times. There 's a lot of BS going around about cannabis driving impairment. Try not to buy into it. Thanks i'm glad your legs work but some couldn't pass because of medical reasons or have no legs or maybe one leg Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
